New "Mission" of RPF
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@JamesGatz Big man... don't you owe a bunch of people money or clothes still?
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@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag the question remains: why talk of the Holy Spirit at all, since to you Christianity is programming to be overcome? It can only lead to confusion, as in the eyes of Christians the Holy Spirit affirms the divinity of Jesus. When conversing with them, you will end up using their terms in a way that does not agree with their definitions of those terms. Why deliberately hang on to the programming like that? Why continue use terminology that was brainwashed into you? Why not come up with your own terminology, now that you are empowered? That would be more congruent and less confusing.
It's enough for people to understand. I don't need to change the terminology just because you feel it can be confusing for other Christians that are not as smart as you. I give you an answer than is plain and simple. In language and terminology we both understand quite well.
Plain and simple.
And you want me to invent a new terminology? Just imagine how Star Trek would turn out when Gene Roddenberry would have to invent a whole new Klingon language and put subtitles in for the sake of purity along your absurd standards.
I am just glad no one like you were not around as an influential movie or TV critic. Not that you have proven yourself to be one. I would certainly be turned off having to learn an invented Klingon language for the sake of watching Star Trek. You sure would be successful in turning a sci-fi series from enjoyment to torture for everyone.
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@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I see no point in this if you believe the bible as propaganda and dismiss all followers as a cult and in one basket.
And you believe on faith alone that the bible is the word of God? Who told you so then?
Do you truly think that the world is a better place because of Christianity? That Christianity was a moderating force that averted many wars that could have been because Christian leaders were so effective as the third rail that kept many many crimes of humanity from seeing the light of day. That Christian leaders would protect its flock when the government abuses its powers? Yeah, what did your pastors and popes and bishops and ministers do when their flocks were herded into getting vaccines meant to harm them? Weren't their chorus of objection and indignation so loud you can hear a pin drop? Where was the love of a shepherd who would seek out the single lost sheep huh? Did they unite and protect one good man for whistleblowing against the abuse of power as an independent journalist and send a strong statement that God's wrath will befall the abusive leaders who hide under the immunity of national security and abuse its powers? Yes, I speak in defense of Julian Assange.
What is Christianity but a cult? But that is too kind of me to just say it is a cult? And you object to my kindness and my soft- pedaling.
I ask you: Didn't the whole cult sin by just sitting by and doing nothing when it could do something against the pathogenically habitual and chronic offenses done by governments against humanity? As a former Catholic I would go to confession for sins of commission and of omission. How grave the sin of failing to do what is right when the entire Christian church complex simply stood by and act nowhere like a good Samaritan in the bible.
And yet you speak of the bible and failed to act like a good Samaritan?
You're right. I see no point in this. Christianity is pointless and toothless and meaningless when its leaders and followers themselves rob it of the essence of Jesus, the exemplary prophet that he is to come to save humanity.
We are worthy of forty by forty years of exile from whatever he promised us.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief in the attributes you think he had?
Thrive for the highest degree of energy
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
It's enough for people to understand. I don't need to change the terminology just because you feel it can be confusing for other Christians that are not as smart as you. I give you an answer than is plain and simple. In language and terminology we both understand quite well.
Plain and simple.
And you want me to invent a new terminology? Just imagine how Star Trek would turn out when Gene Roddenberry would have to invent a whole new Klingon language and put subtitles in for the sake of purity along your absurd standards.
I am just glad no one like you were not around as an influential movie or TV critic. Not that you have proven yourself to be one. I would certainly be turned off having to learn an invented Klingon language for the sake of watching Star Trek. You sure would be successful in turning a sci-fi series from enjoyment to torture for everyone.
I'm afraid you are unwilling to acknowledge the issue. You can't approppriate someone's well defined terminology, rewrite it to suit your own needs and then expect not to have to explain yourself to anyone. Assuming otherwise demonstrates such an immense amount of hubris that it strongly testifies against your claim about your contact with the Holy Spirit. If all you have to show for your faith is pride, impatience and insults, you can be sure that you at least are as far away from God as the rest of the people and nations you criticize. Unfortunately, due to all the deceit and distraction you are engaging in, it is hard for anyone to understand what you are truly on about, and that does include me.
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@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any thoughts and beliefs related to that, unless i ask someone about his claims on it
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
Thrive for the highest degree of energy
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Your great ability to use words in going around in circles in absurd circumlocution only to object to form and not substance betrays your penchant to evade issues you clearly have no grasp of. It is only noise and no signal. Your history of posts attest to that nature in you which you mistake as brilliance. Wake up!
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Do you truly think that the world is a better place because of Christianity?
It is necessary to make a distinction between organized religion and the gospel, as they are, at least in certain sense, opposites: for whereas religion is about what man can do for God, the gospel is about what God has done for man. Since man is fundamentally flawed, even the things we do for God cause great harm to whole mankind. Thus, as you have intuited, all we can do is humble ourselves and let God work in us.
There is much for which Christianity can be criticized and blamed. Yet Christianity is not the gospel, nor is it the Church that is made up of those who live the gospel. As Jesus did not come to create a religion, but rather to free people from it, in this sense you are right in rebelling against organized Christianity. If only you were able to see that you don't need to discard what God has done for you in Christ in order to discard the shackles of religion.
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@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
Mentally ill person,
The Questions neither imply nor speak of proof,
I said belief, not knowledge on top of that.
Already in this exchange, I've for sure used my " god" mind to think, rather than your low energy mediocre mind
Thrive for the highest degree of energy
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Your great ability to use words in going around in circles in absurd circumlocution only to object to form and not substance betrays your penchant to evade issues you clearly have no grasp of. It is only noise and no signal. Your history of posts attest to that nature in you which you mistake as brilliance. Wake up!
Considering your forceful attempts to dominate the discourse by making up lies about me and weaving fictitious narratives, as well as your consistent evasion of questions and counter arguments, this seems to be little else than projection. I continue being saddened by your recent dramatic change in character, but I hope deep down you are fine.
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@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I see no point in this if you believe the bible as propaganda and dismiss all followers as a cult and in one basket.
And you believe on faith alone that the bible is the word of God? Who told you so then?
God did.
As a former Catholic I would go to confession for sins of commission and of omission. How grave the sin of failing to do what is right when the entire Christian church complex simply stood by and act nowhere like a good Samaritan in the bible.
Catholicism is a cult. True Christianity is not. I am sorry the Catholic "church" hurt you.
And yet you speak of the bible and failed to act like a good Samaritan?
I don't think the left for dead Israelite was kicking and screaming.
“The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.” (Proverbs 20:30)
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@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
Mentally ill person,
The Questions neither imply nor speak of proof,
I said belief, not knowledge on top of that.
Already in this exchange, I've for sure used my " god" mind to think, rather than your low energy mediocre mind
Yes, mentally ill. So can you do me a favor and we just ignore each other. I'll always be testy with you. You feel you have some valid questions, whereas I consider them pointless and peripheral and have little bearing on the topic at hand. It's always a sidebar with you. Beside the point. And immaterial. But that is what makes you you. Some people will enjoy a tête a tete with you over coffee, but not I. Truthfully, I am annoyed. Rightly or wrongly.
All the best. Have a nice life.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
Mentally ill person,
The Questions neither imply nor speak of proof,
I said belief, not knowledge on top of that.
Already in this exchange, I've for sure used my " god" mind to think, rather than your low energy mediocre mind
Yes, mentally ill. So can you do me a favor and we just ignore each other. I'll always be testy with you. You feel you have some valid questions, whereas I consider them pointless and peripheral and have little bearing on the topic at hand. It's always a sidebar with you. Beside the point. And immaterial. But that is what makes you you. Some people will enjoy a tête a tete with you over coffee, but not I. Truthfully, I am annoyed. Rightly or wrongly.
All the best. Have a nice life.
Mentally ill person,
Why do you go to forums, if you feel animosity towards people who have different ideas from yours on certain subjects, even when they don't want to hurt others,
and if you feel animosity towards people who ask questions about your claims, even when these questions are elementary, and impartial?
Your ability to benefit from and contribute to forums seems low at the moment,
I suggest you should stop going on forums and/or the internet, try to relax and increase your energy and potentially come back later
Thrive for the highest degree of energy
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@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@Truth said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag On what do you base your belief that Jesus is not only a fictional character and that he was a living person, and on what do you base your belief of the attributes you think he had?
Is there another source other than the same source you have, as Jesus did not flash a strong light as I was driving and revealed himself to me to start a new religion.
Did you want to follow up with one enlightening and mesmerizing gotcha, sticks?
I dont have any source, i dont have any belief related to that.
You base your beliefs on the Bible, or on "historical accounts", how in your thoughts do you discern what you think is propaganda and control, and what you think is factual about "Jesus"?
"Sticks" Can you stay correct or do you want to continue to be perceived as mentally ill, mentally ill person?
You ask for proof as if proof is like something one readily finds in a Rosetta stone. I would give you an explanation like I had done before, but it's best you begin to use tour God-given mind and get inspired to start thinking. I know, I know, it's hard. Just start with small tidbits of thought and slowly increase the stress on your mind.
You will get the hang of it, bones! Believe in yourself.
Mentally ill person,
The Questions neither imply nor speak of proof,
I said belief, not knowledge on top of that.
Already in this exchange, I've for sure used my " god" mind to think, rather than your low energy mediocre mind
Yes, mentally ill. So can you do me a favor and we just ignore each other. I'll always be testy with you. You feel you have some valid questions, whereas I consider them pointless and peripheral and have little bearing on the topic at hand. It's always a sidebar with you. Beside the point. And immaterial. But that is what makes you you. Some people will enjoy a tête a tete with you over coffee, but not I. Truthfully, I am annoyed. Rightly or wrongly.
All the best. Have a nice life.
Mentally ill person,
Why do you go to forums, if you feel animosity towards people who have different ideas from yours on certain subjects, even when they don't want to hurt others,
and if you feel animosity towards people who ask questions about your claims, even when these questions are elementary, and impartial?
Your ability to benefit from and contribute to forums seems low at the moment,
I suggest you should stop going on forums and/or the internet, try to relax and increase your energy and potentially come back later
Such is your disposition.
Tit for tat response.
I at least try to give you a fair assessment.
You deny what I see in you. And lash out like a wounded lion, his pride hurt.
What else do you want to say to make yourself a paragon of virtue and free of imperfections as you rattle off whatever descriptions of me to further distance me from your virtuous and exemplary demeanor?
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@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Your great ability to use words in going around in circles in absurd circumlocution only to object to form and not substance betrays your penchant to evade issues you clearly have no grasp of. It is only noise and no signal. Your history of posts attest to that nature in you which you mistake as brilliance. Wake up!
Considering your forceful attempts to dominate the discourse by making up lies about me and weaving fictitious narratives, as well as your consistent evasion of questions and counter arguments, this seems to be little else than projection. I continue being saddened by your recent dramatic change in character, but I hope deep down you are fine.
@TheSir said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@yerrag said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Your great ability to use words in going around in circles in absurd circumlocution only to object to form and not substance betrays your penchant to evade issues you clearly have no grasp of. It is only noise and no signal. Your history of posts attest to that nature in you which you mistake as brilliance. Wake up!
Considering your forceful attempts to dominate the discourse by making up lies about me and weaving fictitious narratives, as well as your consistent evasion of questions and counter arguments, this seems to be little else than projection. I continue being saddened by your recent dramatic change in character, but I hope deep down you are fine.
Your lack of awareness of yourself speaks volumes.
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@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
God did.
What were his exact words?
I envy you. I only get stirrings.
Perhaps you were very worthy.
But only God knows if you speak truth. He has a special place for those who lie. But that's just my opinion.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@fiester said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Catholicism is a cult. True Christianity is not. I am sorry the Catholic "church" hurt you.
Are you sure you're not in a cult yourself?
I am also sorry for you. Especially if you believe there is such a thing as a chosen people. But I don't think you are.
What in your opinion is true Christianity?
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why don't you guys make a religion discussion thread ask brad to move the posts there, so they're all together and on topic...
