Getting rid of gyno
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@peatilian said in Getting rid of gyno:
I ran topical DHT solved in DMSO for 5ish weeks starting at 25mg/day and titrating up to 50mg/day the last few weeks.
Topically applied evenly to each nipple and had a ~50% reduction in size of gyno which then tapered off towards the end.
Am now on first week of topical (wrist) androsterone at 16mg/day hoping to see similar effects.
Way to go. I have seen many such cases.
Perhaps the mammary gland exposed to the chronic influence of estradiol and prolactin has reduced local sensitivity to DHT and androgens, so that even despite high testosterone levels, you could still suffer.
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Yes I’ve had high test/free test and low estradiol / prolactin in all panels the last 3 years. My assumption is that my gyno is from an estrogenic upbringing, and has possibly experienced calcification of some sort which has dampened its androgenic receptivity.
I plan on moving my androsterone application to the nipple if nothing is noticed from wrist application these first few weeks.
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@peatilian where did you get topical DHT?
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@raccoonmilk cost?
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Appreciate the reply, did you notice any other effects from the DHT/Andro so far? 16mg seems like a fairly large dose, what made you land at that number? I was considering starting with Andro so would be intrigued to hear any of your thoughts so far, especially that we seem to have fairly similar situations. Thanks in advance.
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@Birk Thanks for the reply, I take Vit K regularly so I’m glad I’ve got that ticked off. Andro might be next logical place
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@eatfan anything that lowers prolactin. Search for gyno and prolactin in the research
A dude on the retard forum said his went away using progesterone.
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@eatfan said in Getting rid of gyno:
Appreciate the reply, did you notice any other effects from the DHT/Andro so far? 16mg seems like a fairly large dose, what made you land at that number? I was considering starting with Andro so would be intrigued to hear any of your thoughts so far, especially that we seem to have fairly similar situations. Thanks in advance.
I have been applying about an hour before the gym, started at 8mg and titrated up to 16 mg quite quickly. Mentally felt very well in the gym and specifically after. Much more dopaminergic after the lift than usual.
It also smells incredible to me so it’s also my daily perfume. No gyno reduction noted so far from the andro.
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i looked through what ray said about gyno in his interviews on bioenergetic.life. on every occasion he was asked about gyno he recommended increasing vitamin d and calcium. he said deficiency in calcium (relative to phosphate) and vitamin d increases prolactin. other than that he talks about supporting thyroid function and using coffee. he also mentioned progesterone once. he also said to use “all of the anti-aromatase supplements including aspirin”
so an anti gyno stack according to ray from his interviews would be:
-vit d
-calcium
-aromatase inhibitors (vit k, vit e, exemestane, aspirin)
-coffee
-thyroid
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I got pubertal gyno which I started addressing almost year ago with raloxifene. There was at best 10% improvement after single month cycle. With this method be ready for mood swings and decrease of libido. During that year I also focused on things mentioned before like thyroid, calcium, D, K, aspirin which probably contributed to my actual state which is 60% volume from last year. But in my subjective opinion I noticed bigger correction after applying dth 9mg/week +andro 9mg/week scortally for more than 2 months at this point, which I will continue.
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@peatilian Just DHT? Doesn't it crash your T levels and you're obliged to take TRT?
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@GreekDemiGod said in Getting rid of gyno:
@peatilian Just DHT? Doesn't it crash your T levels and you're obliged to take TRT?
False.
DHT has so little effect on the HPGA (Hypothalamic–pituitary–gonadal axis) that it causes 0 recognizable testosterone production suppresion. Androsterone does not cause any HPGA suppression either.
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Any lingering gyno I had was solved with progesterone and red light.
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@raccoonmilk DM if you are interested in a source. The CAS number + Yandex may also do the trick.
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@eatfan Abstain from PMO for 30 days and get back to me
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Where do I get dht?
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In a more auxialliary manner try rubbing some coocnut oil of the breast area to saturate it, I don't recomand going full androsterone since it can convert to estrogen at a rate influenced by the presence of PUFAs
