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    Ray Peat - quack or genius?

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    • KvirionK
      Kvirion @Fructose
      last edited by Kvirion

      @Fructose Me too...

      Then I was on keto and IF but had a lot of issues...

      Ray Peat's advice saved my life probably 🙂
      Now I feel something like 10-15 years younger and my IBS, brain fog, fatigue, etc. are gone.
      But I use RP advice in systemic/contextual ways...

      A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
      Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
      There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
      And drinking largely sobers us again.
      ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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      • FructoseF
        Fructose @newmexico
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        @newmexico said in Ray Peat - quack or genius?:

        @Fructose that is probably due to a poor diet and genetics/genetic mutation in the family, unfortunately. I was fine when I ate normal NHS-approved food, but when I tried the RPD it destroyed me quite badly (previously mentioned)

        You were hospitalized because of your own stupidity. If you only ate lettuce and broccoli, the foods readily recommended by the "best" guidelines, you would also be deficient.

        I do not have any "genetic mutation", no one in my family has had intestinal problems, as I have examined my family's clinical history. I followed 100% of the good diet recommended by nutritionists. Ultimately, I ended up on immunosuppressants and corticosteroids, which I do not take. Ray Peat saved my life.

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        • FructoseF
          Fructose @newmexico
          last edited by

          @newmexico said in Ray Peat - quack or genius?:

          @Fructose that is probably due to a poor diet and genetics/genetic mutation in the family, unfortunately. I was fine when I ate normal NHS-approved food, but when I tried the RPD it destroyed me quite badly (previously mentioned)

          Me the same. Simply "Perceive, Think, Act".

          I don't have a typical Peat diet myself, I'm experimenting. I observe my body and its reaction. I am currently on a low-fat liquid diet.

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            newmexico @Fructose
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            @Fructose When I ate a diet by the best guidelines it actually made me feel great! I was a longdistance runner and got high positions in marathons, even winning some. I eat salads on the regular and was never deficient! I had my bloodwork done by my doc he told me I was in the 94th percentile of men my age!

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            • chudlordC
              chudlord @newmexico
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              @newmexico it seems to me like you haven’t read any article of Ray nor have read any of the studies he cited and referenced

              “Resuscitating the cloromydorphins to add a pep into your step”

              -Rizzenhouse

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              • paradoxP
                paradox
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                It's not about the empiricism, it's his methodological philosophy. In that, I believe he was being clear that the uniqueness of an individual must be taken into account instead of relying on aggregate research with questionable controls.

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                • KvirionK
                  Kvirion @paradox
                  last edited by Kvirion

                  @paradox Well said, Ray was all about the good method and understanding the individual context.

                  @chudlord Exacly, to understand Ray, one must read most of his articles thoroughly. Moreover, to understand his philosophical approaches based on for example Heraclitus or William Blake 🙂

                  @newmexico Something for you Youtube Video

                  A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                  Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                  There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                  And drinking largely sobers us again.
                  ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                    toiletking @newmexico
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                    @newmexico you can try everything he suggested and see for yourself.

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                    • TexugoDoMelT
                      TexugoDoMel
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                      Just a reminder for those who are interested, since I think this person is joking

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                      • bradB
                        brad
                        last edited by brad

                        I find that most people who dismiss Ray out of hand based on socially conditioned "scientific" consensus rely upon un-empirical heuristics such as "posts are not peer-reviewed and are outdated." That notwithstanding, reading this post style sounds an awfully lot like ChatGPT3.5. That could either be because the author couldn't generate their own arguments or because their ideas are so clichéd that they closely resemble statistically "average" sentences.

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                        • KvirionK
                          Kvirion @brad
                          last edited by

                          @brad Yep, Unfortunately, most normies are conditioned to be afraid/avoid everything outside the mainstream's narrow Overton Window...

                          Some say that people can even have a mental immune system for that https://www.prosocial.world/posts/bad-ideas-recruit-the-minds-immune-system-to-protect-themselves

                          A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                          Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                          There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                          And drinking largely sobers us again.
                          ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                          • VirtueAgonistV
                            VirtueAgonist
                            last edited by

                            Read the Milk Manifesto

                            Regenerative milk is more environmentally friendly than vegetable harvests.

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