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    • MossyM
      Mossy @LucH
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      @LucH said in Chris Masterjohn: Salicylates are Toxic:

      Still Trying to connect the dots

      Indeed. That is the entire challenge — properly connecting the dots.

      "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
      "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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      • literofmilkadayL
        literofmilkaday @LucH
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        @LucH Why would you rather use potassium bicarbonate?

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        • LucHL
          LucH @literofmilkaday
          last edited by LucH

          @literofmilkaday said in Chris Masterjohn: Salicylates are Toxic:

          Why would you rather use potassium bicarbonate?

          I suppose the question is: Why would you rather use potassium bicarbonate, preferable to sodium bicarbonate?
          => Sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) is approximately 60% bicarbonate (HCO3-) and 40% sodium (Na+) by mass.

          Potassium bicarbonate (KHCO3) is approximatively 60% bicarbonate (HCO3-) and 40% potassium by mass.

          Why K?
          Short answer:
          I emphasize the balance between Na/K with Potassium.. I have to take care (cramps, under control) with Na/K and Ca Mg. K and Mg under surveillance (watch), in my case. But do not conclude without a context (time is important).

          Detailed explanation
          When you eat one slice Gouda or ham at breakfast, you get enough salt (NaCl) (Sodium chloride)

          According to Cronometer
          For Gouda cheese:
          A single slice of Gouda (60 g) contains approximately 320 mg of sodium.
          213.6 K/cal. P15 F16.5/10.6 C1.3 and 491.4 Na, 420 Ca, P 327.6, K 72.6 in mg.
          A single medium-sized slice of Gouda (60 g) contains approximately 320 mg of sodium.
          For ham, canned, visible fat eaten (60 g)
          A medium-sized slice of ham (60 g) contains approximately 564 mg of sodium.
          135 K/cal. P12.3 F9.1/3 C0.3 and 564.6 Na, 4.8 Ca, P 145.8, K 214.2 in mg.

          For my last breakfast:
          ½ tsp coconut oil
          1 very small fried onion
          50 g English canned bacon (not smoked, but well salted, and with nitrites!) (If I had taken one slice 0.5 cm thickness, I could have eaten pork with no salt added, and chiefly without any nitrite, used as conservative, to keep the “red color”).
          2 eggs
          and 2 fruits. Let’s say one medium pear, and 120 g blueberries.

          => If I add some more sodium from bicarbonate, instead of potassium bicarbonate, I emphasize the unbalance between Na/K.
          Of course, we have a dual side of view here:
          an appropriate pH for digesting protein (bicarbonate alkalizes the bowl),
          the amount of sodium (Na)
          the balance Na/K
          and the combo high fat + nitrite + acidity, likely to produce nitrosamines, unless you decide to, counteract the process.

          I can develop how it would be interesting to manage, but only if someone is interested 😉 to avoid a wordy talk. 😉

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          • L
            LetTheRedeemed
            last edited by LetTheRedeemed

            4,550mg of aspirin split morning and night was the only thing that completely stopped the worst allergy season reaction I’ve had in a long time. (+ ton of vit K)

            I could afford to skip all the other aids a few times: antihistamines, biotin, water, caffeine, but if I skipped aspirin it was not a good time.

            FYI, all those things combined made it feel as tho I didn’t have any allergic reaction (other than the grogginess from benadryl and cypro)

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              rpc @LetTheRedeemed
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              @LetTheRedeemed Out of interest, did you try vitamin E? That was immensely helpful to me this year during allergy season, and worked better than pharmaceutical antihistamines, for me personally.

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                LetTheRedeemed @rpc
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                @rpc not other than that in progest-e. I’ll definitely remember that next time. Thanks!

                I’ve often thought that things like regional rashes and histamine reactions are likely due to chronic nutrient deficiencies, and topical fat solubles are probably useful. As an aside, I started to get a chronic itch on my neck turn into a rash (where it’s come and gone often), and put topical vit A on it, and it went away. I bet the whole range of vitamins is best!

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                • PranaDevaP
                  PranaDeva @Sitaruim
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                  Danny Roddy has some tips for safely using aspirin:

                  https://dannyroddy.substack.com/p/bioenergetic-basics-2-safe-and-unsafe

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                  • LucHL
                    LucH @PranaDeva
                    last edited by LucH

                    @PranaDeva said in Chris Masterjohn: Salicylates are Toxic:

                    Danny Roddy has some tips for safely using aspirin: ---

                    Hi, I didn't read DR's tips. An excerpt would be appreciated 😉

                    I won’t begin taking daily aspirin at the autumn. Whatever the dosage may be: 81 – 350 or higher dose (500-1000 mg). The impact on platelet aggregation is concerned. Long term use is different. The body counteracts / adapts its production.
                    Why?

                    1. Irreversible inhibition of platelet aggregation, typical for acetylsalicylate, has been observed. Need 7-10 days to produce new platelets if you got the right nutrients. So, need pause if you do so. 10% renewal per day.
                    2. Prevention for SARS-cov-2.
                      A low amount of platelets is dangerous with Sars-Cov-2 when the immune system over-reacts.

                    Source: European Medicines Agency (EMA) / Herbal Monograph on Salix purpurea / other Salix spp. Cortex.Page 36–37 (Discussion) of the PDF. *
                    Chemically and pharmacologically, salicin (the main pro-drug in willow bark) is converted to salicylic acid and does not contain the acetyl group that allows aspirin to irreversibly acetylate COX-1 in platelets. Because of that, willow/salicin does not produce the same aspirin-like irreversible antiplatelet effect — clinical and regulatory reviews report little or no aspirin-equivalent platelet inhibition with standard willow bark extracts, and when inhibition is observed it is markedly weaker than with aspirin.

                    • Access to the PDF EMA’s herbal medicine portal:
                      👉 https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicines/herbal/salicis-cortex
                      Scroll down to “Documents” → click
                      “Assessment report on Salix (various species)… 31 January 2017 (PDF)”.
                      This is a free and public document (no login, no paywall).
                      That PDF (about 47 pages) is the full European regulatory review of willow bark (Salix cortex).
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                      LetTheRedeemed @LucH
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                      @LucH I thought vitamin K fixes that. No?

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                      • LucHL
                        LucH @LetTheRedeemed
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                        @LetTheRedeemed
                        Not sure. For clotting in normal circumstances, yes. Could do it.but without platelet, how ?
                        Have to verify..

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