glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic
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@LucH said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
Describe "serotonergic" : Excited / nervous ?
introverted, less witty, anxious, on edge, no novelty seeking
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@beriberi I’ve been supplementing thiamine for a while now. I used to take a heaped teaspoon per day, but I’ve since lowered the dose to 100–500 mg.
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@lobotomize thiamine HCL does nothing if you have genetically slow thiamine transporters, also thiamine HCL is 3% bioavailable and thiamine supplements also do nothing if you are hypothyroid
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@lobotomize Try more Choline, Potassium, Magnesium, Zinc, A, D3, TTFD/Benfotiamine, B2, B5, Methyl folate, Methyl B12 and TMG if you can tolerate methyl donors, Creatine to spare methyl groups and potentially 2-4 grains of thyroid hormone
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if you take thyroid hormone you also are going to have to eat liver or supplement vitamin A, because your thyroid hormone status determines your vitamin A requirements, and speaking from experience i can take hundreds of milligrams of TTFD or Benfotiamine whilst hypothyroid and it'll do nothing except prevent severe deficiency symptoms. to enter oxidative metabolism and actually properly utilize nutrients you need thiamine thyroid hormone and additional nutritional cofactors in sufficient amounts to process carbohydrates fats and proteins efficiently, otherwise you are wasting calories due to being in lower forms of metabolism
it should not be calories in vs calories out but calories potentialized vs calories actualized
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@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
So I realized that after five months on this diet of milk mixed with glucose and some other ingredients, whenever I go without milk or glucose for a while, I suddenly become a lot funnier, more dopaminergic, and more playful.
I thought Peat said the calcium in milk negates the downsides of large tryptophan intake. Does anyone know how I can prevent the serotonergic rise?
I suggest try milk on its own, no added carbs, potentially try whole milk and raw milk, and if you still feel the same, either try to other foods maxing in case you are running low on certains nutrients and the milk might contribute, or dont drink milk at all
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Have you tried adding calcium carbonate to other components of your meal? I am thinking about Haidut's Bulgarian burger.
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@beriberi i take t3 and i believe thiamine hcl passes the membrane through passive diffusion aswell so if you are deficient and take 500 you get 250 as the b1 stabilizes on both sides
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@beriberi milk has potassium i drop 30 ml mgcl on myself almost every day, i restarted taken zinc recently after taking probably too much liver , d3 i take 5k every 2 days , i take thiamine hcl reffer to my reasoning on my other reply, i stopped taking b2 as it caused me diahria from bile acid getting deconjugated plus my exam scores when taking it were suprisingly low i am yet to investigate if the problem was something else , b5 is abundent in milk , i may try methyl fol. i take creatine and thyroid
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@user2 i constantly get hungry if i dont add carbs to it. plus milks has too much liquid be a solo carb source
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@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
@user2 i constantly get hungry if i dont add carbs to it. plus milks has too much liquid be a solo carb source
Do you drink it warm or cold? Do you lie down or do stuffs after you drink milk? No, milk doesnt have to much liquid at all to be a solo carb source Milk+sugar/honey/starch can be terrible, adding these carbs to it can just exacerbate defiencies.
everything i told above about milk is relevant, i suggest experiment with that
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@lobotomize how much thyroid
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@lobotomize this doesn’t happen in my experience, either way your thyroid status determines how you respond to minerals and vitamins. Thyroid hormone replacement is the equivalent of 96mcgs of t3 produced every day from t4-t3 conversion and t3 production
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feels like shit from eating carbs
hungry if he doesn’t eat more carbsThis is literally just malnutrition
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@lobotomize said in glucose milk causing me to be serotonergic:
So I realized that after five months on this diet of milk mixed with glucose and some other ingredients, whenever I go without milk or glucose for a while, I suddenly become a lot funnier, more dopaminergic, and more playful.
I thought Peat said the calcium in milk negates the downsides of large tryptophan intake. Does anyone know how I can prevent the serotonergic rise?
@lobotomize said in Lobotomize-me athletic logs:
lowering fat intake has been a game changer for me. drank 8 liters of 1.5% milk a day -> bananas and 0.1% fat milk a day liver once a week and some supplements. started finally losing weight hopefully it was the change i needed to finally become lean
Just seen this, this is troll diet medium long term, no meat, bananas is a B+ tier fruit at best even ripe, skimmed milk has worst effects than whole or raw milk in my experience, most beef liver are toxic, can worsen your digestion and dont necessary have the benefits you can get from eating meat. do you eat any salt?
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@beriberi i dont feel like shit i just feel a lot better when i eat carbs in a different form for a while and i am trying to understand why
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@beriberi i take 12.5 mcg every hour or so or when i get cold. close to 100 mcg a day
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@user2 i drink it at room temp
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@user2 to get 300 g carbs from milk i will need 10 liters
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@user2 i stopped eating bananas after 3 weeks of this diet because it made me sick for the first time in 2 years (probably because the histamine). i also had to stop the 0.1 milk and return to 1.5 % because the only lactose free option was 1.5 . but i will be receiving a pallet shipment with 0.1 lactose free milk next week
