Sleep help
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@Elza said in Sleep help:
@user1 I am not maxing on anything. I have liver once à week. All of this started after I started on antipsychotics medication Xeplion. I have insomnia along with constipation, I need a laxatif to go to the loo and my periods are late like weeks, last month it was 2 days with very little blood more like dark spots. I am so desperate and tired. I can’t stop and I have to take it. My Doctor is living this month so everything is complicated. I will have to explain to the new one, once they find him or her.
Ok. Why do you have to take xeplion? Have you tryed not taking it for a few days at least and see if it resolved the sleep issue? Xeplion side effects include insomnia and constipation, you very likely should not take something that cause insomnia and constipation long term and find other ways to fix the reason you took it in first place
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@Elza said in Sleep help:
that’s a lot of work and I am so tored right now.
I understand. Need time and energy to answer.
2 possibilities:- Not quite convinced by the way you should handle the “problem”. No issue, at this time.
- It could do the job. Take time to manage and come back when you feel it. Cut the answer in several paragraphs:
- Physical symptoms
- Feeling (subjective comment)
- Menu (3 usual days)
Pause - First staple (how to manage) with low energy and mood.
What to do / what to change. - Second staple (hormonal approach + enzymes).
- Last staple (consolidation).
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@user1 I have no choice. I have to take it. Its an injection not pills form so I can’t decide to take ut or not. I am tryin to negotiate to reduce the dose.
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@LucH OK, thanks. I will see. As I said the culprit is the xeplion. I would like advice to diminish the sude effects and survive this. Its just awful.
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@Elza said in Sleep help:
@user1 I have no choice. I have to take it. Its an injection not pills form so I can’t decide to take ut or not. I am tryin to negotiate to reduce the dose.
God be with you. I hope you have your family to take care of you and not let docs do whatever they want to do in term of medications and dosage.
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@user1 thank you. I am unfortunately quite lonely in trying to get better help. My family see Doctors as authority figure you have to obey. I find myself in a terrible predicament.
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LucH is talking nonsense again because her LLM got bought out by pharma.
Serotonine is a stress hormone. It directly increases cortisol through CRH (Corticotropin-Releasing Hormone) -> ACTH (Adrenocorticotropic Hormone). High serotonin = high cortisol = no sleep.
Cortisol is how the body increases blood sugar when no sugars are available. Thus a prerequisite to lowering cortisol is eating more, as mentioned very early in the thread, regardless of method.
The most short term effective way of decreasing Cortisol would be Cyproheptadine (also known as Periactin). It greatly reduces Serotonine, Cortisol and Histamine, all the hormones that disrupt sleep. Note that the body need Cortisol to wake up after sleeping again and Cypro has a long half life, that means that people usually sleep longer than usual when they have taken Cypro. Sleeping 14 or even 16 hours is not unheard of, and given your current level of sleep deprivation is even highly likely. To avoid that take the Cypro 18 hours before your target wake up time, so that it's effect is still strong when you go to sleep but greatly reduced when you wake up.
If you are in Europe you can order Periactin from a spanish online pharmacy, as it is over the counter in Spain.
It will also increase appetite greatly, this is also expected, since the body can't regulate it's blood sugar levels with cortisol anymore it needs to regulate blood sugar through appetite instead.
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@pittybitty hi, I do have some cyproheptadine, but I used it a few times. Now I have a sleeping pill named qviviq, daridorexant, its new on the Market apparently. I would love to sleep long hours but I always wake up after 7/8hours. How much cyproheptadine should I take to be able to do that? Even though I sleep my energy level is still low, not much stamina. I can’t walk much, and when I am home, I always want to be in my bed. I don’t feel like and can’t do much. I go to bed at around 9pm and wake up around 6am. I would love to sleep much more.
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@Elza You need to find your individual dosage but I would start with 4mg as taking too little will not have the desired effect. I would take it after a meal so that you have high enough blood sugar without the cortisol.
Cypro is not a sedative. It simply stops the hormones that would mask your natural tiredness. As such you should take it a few hours before you want to sleep and then go to bed when you feel like it naturally. I also wouldn't combine it with any sedatives either, that doesn't make the sleep any more restful, you should already be plenty tired from your sleep deprivation.
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@pittybitty thànks f1or the advice I will see. The higher I took is 2mg.
