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    • hwisdomH Offline
      hwisdom @hwisdom
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      selegiline is btw rlly goated it does live to the hype, better than bromantane imo

      MILF
      man I love fasting

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        alfredoolivas @engineer
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        @engineer inshallah

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          engineer
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          If pramipexole doesn't work out, it looks like you can also increase dopamine and (hopefully) lower serotonin through MCR agonism. That would mean a peptide like melanotan 2 or PT-141. I already have some melanotan 2 but the jury is still out on melanoma risk so that means PT-141.

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            Looks lik maybe MCR agonism is akin to a stress response?

            Appears as though metergoline is the way to go even though it mostly works on serotonin

            Now the challenge is finding bulk metergoline

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              hwisdom @engineer
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              @engineer melanotan makes you black through NO stimulation btw, this is why it also gives u massive boners, prolactinogenic, not peaty, fuck melanotan all these mechanisms abt it are just speculations because "erm akshually melanin good!", didnt peter thiel like fund these popular peptides or smth idfk

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              man I love fasting

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              • hwisdomH Offline
                hwisdom @engineer
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                @engineer metergoline is goated, any chinese nigga on echemi would sell it to you for around like 400$ a gram, 4mg a day for me gave me all the famous benefits of blocking serotonin at a significant rate, but if you can try getting ur hands on the brand name Liserdol product, its gonna be much easier

                MILF
                man I love fasting

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                • engineerE Offline
                  engineer @hwisdom
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                  @hwisdom it doesnt specifically touch NO, it just stimulates melanocytes through mc1r which is normally agonized by alpha msh, and NO increases mc1r expression like you would expect in a stress state

                  https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMw_7fd6d676-eb61-41b6-8bff-c75dc29acb22

                  remember, iNOS is bad and eNOS is fine

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                  • engineerE Offline
                    engineer @alfredoolivas
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                    @alfredoolivas said in Fenclonine:

                    @engineer inshallah

                    I just gave mami a Ray Peat starter kit

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                    • alfredoolivasA Offline
                      alfredoolivas @engineer
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                      @engineer you don’t cheap out, I like it

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                      • hwisdomH Offline
                        hwisdom @engineer
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                        @engineer I eat out my dogs asshole

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                        • jamezb46J Offline
                          jamezb46 @engineer
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                          @engineer Maybe you would like Bupropion for this purpose. It's easily available.

                          In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                            hwisdom @jamezb46
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                            @jamezb46 it blocks serotonin like that???

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                            man I love fasting

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                              @hwisdom It doesn't block serotonin but it increases dopamine and as Georgi has written many times whenever dopamine increases serotonin tends to decrease because of enzyme competition. There are exceptions but in general the above is true as a rule.

                              In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                  wester130 @engineer
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                                  @engineer extremely difficult to buy from those websites

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                                    engineer @wester130
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                                    @wester130 what exactly is extremely difficult to buy?

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                                      hwisdom @jamezb46
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                                      @jamezb46 said in Fenclonine:

                                      @hwisdom It doesn't block serotonin but it increases dopamine and as Georgi has written many times whenever dopamine increases serotonin tends to decrease because of enzyme competition. There are exceptions but in general the above is true as a rule.

                                      ok thought so, thought it was smth like metergoline

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