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    Gains from Lapodin?

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    • alfredoolivasA Offline
      alfredoolivas @engineer
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      @engineer From personal experience; Lapodin does not absorb topically. It cakes up on the skin.
      Secondly, emodin and beta lapahchone has a really short half life, requring more doses, orally.

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      • engineerE Offline
        engineer @alfredoolivas
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        @alfredoolivas What about orally, like in OJ? The laxative part doesn't matter

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        • alfredoolivasA Offline
          alfredoolivas @engineer
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          @engineer I think the laxative part comes from the bark no?

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          • engineerE Offline
            engineer @alfredoolivas
            last edited by engineer

            @alfredoolivas if so then there is no reason to take Lapodin topically

            the short half life is a shame though

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              risingfire @engineer
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              @engineer just because you're not degenerating doesn't mean your getting gainz. Very large distinction

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                risingfire @engineer
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                @engineer lapodin and ketoP4 are not the same. Any time I've seen 6KetoP4 in compounds for bodybuilders it was an absurd amount. I've taken haidut's formula and didn't notice any muscle building effects

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                  risingfire
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                  Here's my advice to build muscle from someone who's gone to the gym for over 20 years.

                  -Lift regularly and consistently
                  -Eat saturated fat
                  -Use gelatin plentifully
                  -Drink milk

                  If you do this for a year and don't see growth, take testosterone

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                  • engineerE Offline
                    engineer @risingfire
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                    @risingfire what is "an absurd amount" here?

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                      risingfire @engineer
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                      @engineer 25 to 50mgs

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                      • engineerE Offline
                        engineer @risingfire
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                        @risingfire said in Gains from Lapodin?:

                        @engineer 25 to 50mgs

                        Oh, I'm already taking 25mg a day of the Idealabs version

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                          risingfire @engineer
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                          @engineer have you seen any gainz?

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                          • lobotomizeL Offline
                            lobotomize
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                            It has been theorized that testosterone and dht exert anabolic effects through the inhibition of stress signaling pathways and receptors within muscle tissue

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                              engineer @risingfire
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                              @risingfire I have made massive gains (almost at the level of r slash nattyorjuice), but I can't say how much of it is due to 6-keto-p4, this, or a Peaty diet. I was already making big gains when I started Peating and was only doing 6-keto-p4 in 15-20mg. Also, a couple days ago I bumped up the 6-keto-p4 dose to 30mg, and I don't want to increase it further until I either get it in bulk (see related thread) or allocate enough funds to comfortably go wild and try something like 40-60mg. On the plus side though, I can really feel the effects of suppressed cortisol, and doing 60mg with Idealabs would "only" be $2433 a year, downright cheap if your health is priceless, and very cheap compared to some other more toxic cortisol blockers made for gainz and nothing else (looking at you, T and DHT derivatives) both in upfront cost and the risk of dangerous downstream effects. The mad gainz I've gotten are in fact merely a bonus; I only got 6-keto-p4 to block cortisol because I have had chronic stress bad enough to cause hair loss. Thanks to the cortisol blocking plus all the other bioenergetic stuff I'm doing the hair loss appears to have halted and is slowly growing back!

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                              • engineerE Offline
                                engineer @lobotomize
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                                @lobotomize for dht? please share the studies because the consensus seems to be that dht is not anabolic, but I would love to see otherwise

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