Too high systolic blood pressure?
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@engineer said in Too high systolic blood pressure?:
I am NOT touching thiamine
Change the kind if you saturate with B1 HCL. By some people it affect cardiac rhythm.
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@LucH It was thiamine mononitrate, which is likely similar to thiamine HCL?
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So fckn interesting guys. The last weeks i had every night shortness of breath and didnt know why. Every morning i was taking 250-500mg of thiamine, because i read so much good stuff.
4 days ago i increase the dose and in the night i called the ambulance because of chest pain and extreme airhunger.
My feeling was, it is the b1. I stopped but had still shortness of breath the days after. I hope soon that my body recover from the overdose of b1. I taked it with mag and Calcium btw.
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/please-suggest-reasons-why-b1-thiamine-does-this-to-me.21853/
Good-ey friends,
Lately I have been absolutely loving the effects of Thiamine HCL (ranging from 10-100mg) on it's own throughout the day.
However, sometimes it makes me:
-Lightheaded (Dizzy) Co2? - My breathing becomes shallow!!!
-Sleepy
-Brain-fogWhat are the possible mechanisms driving this? I want to keep using it for it's motivation/mood benefits.
I was suspecting the following:
-Low Blood sugar?
-Low Blood Pressure (Tried having heaps of salt, but this barely helped)
-Excess CO2
-???So I would like to figure out a way to mitigate these effects. Thanks!
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/why-do-i-tolerate-thiamine-hcl-poorly.51380/
Magnesium is important if you're taking big doses of thiamine.
Looks like I might need more magnesium?
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@engineer Drop everything and reassess? If it still persists it could be the testosterone, due to it's long half life
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126/73, it's the B vitamins and caffeine and pyrucet.
Should I keep using them or or lay them off? The metabolic benefits are second to none but elevating BP into hypertension territory isn't so nice.
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@engineer said in Too high systolic blood pressure?:
Should I keep using them or or lay them off?
I'd stop the whole thing for 3 days. To avoid interference with half-life molecule and a return to +/ balance.
Then I'll see the the interconnection of the molecules and the lack of.
If you stress, you lack magnesium bisglycinate.
There is interaction between B1 B2 B3 B6 + B8iotine.
No more than 20-25 B3 if niacin (histamine flush).
Here no caffeine until it's fine. wait 5 days.
Need carbs (glucose & fructose with fiber) when taking caffeine again.
Half life is 5-6 hours for caffeine. Too much caf interfere with adenosine and serotonin afterwards. And don't take a high dose because you've already done it before and everything was alright...
Need l-theanine if you're angry / disturbed / in bad temper ... + a relax technique (breath) for 3'. -
@engineer Drop everything
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@alfredoolivas @luch @thinpicking It appears as though I might have been using a bad BP monitor. I was trying it again sitting on a couch with some soft pillows relaxing and got 15x/7x again. That's unusual, so I grabbed a slightly newer BP monitor (the old one is from 2013) and got a nice 123/71. That seems more reasonable. It's possible that this newer monitor is in fact the wrong one, but considering how my heart rate wasn't severely elevated (around 75 BPM, good per Ray Peat) and how I hadn't done exercise for a while the probability that the blood pressure is so much higher in systolic is low.
Now, the question here is, how will niacinamide and B complex and pyrucet affect this more reasonable result? The crazy high energy feeling I was having could really be an elevated heartbeat and high glucose oxidation and therefore the BP could be anything.
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They're all bad @engineer .
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Update
I'm feeling just fine again at rest like before taking the thiamine. Hooray!
