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    • engineerE Offline
      engineer @alfredoolivas
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      @alfredoolivas said in moggy chicken log:

      "Purified" Pregnenolone DMSO (40mg daily)

      Let us know how 40mg works out for you because I'm using 10 drops pansterone (10mg pregnenolone + DHEA) and 2 drops kuinone (K2) for my similar regimen to yours. I'm not sure if that's enough or if the DHEA is estrogenic so it'd be nice to get more data points

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        samson @alfredoolivas
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        @alfredoolivas at 5 11 glucosamine + chondroitin did nothing for me, maybe helped me keep .5 inch evening height. not work taking those horse pills imo. why such low protein? ur trying to twinkmax?

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        • alfredoolivasA Offline
          alfredoolivas @samson
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          @samson the appetite supression from the current stack is insane. whatever it is, its working.

          yes, i am twink maxxing.

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          • KilgoreK Offline
            Kilgore
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            So why tren?

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            • engineerE Offline
              engineer @Kilgore
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              @Kilgore this is because he is a super mega steroid nonresponder, you wouldn't believe what didn't deliver many gains in the past

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              • alfredoolivasA Offline
                alfredoolivas @Kilgore
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                @Kilgore My intuition says that nuking my androstane steroids with estrane and pregnane steroids will be the cornucopia of health

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                  sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                  @alfredoolivas mayhaps u will explain the meaning of this??? estrane pregnane adrostane ? wut??

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                  • alfredoolivasA Offline
                    alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                    @sunsunsun "mayhaps" XDXD

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                    • sunsunsunS Offline
                      sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                      @alfredoolivas but why u think androstane avoidance is le good

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                      • alfredoolivasA Offline
                        alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                        @sunsunsun intuition😉

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                          sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                          @alfredoolivas ❤

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                            alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                            @sunsunsun god bless you sushi

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                            • samsonS Offline
                              samson @alfredoolivas
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                              @alfredoolivas have you gone super low BF before? in my experience, doing more out there protocols can work really well (I lost 15lbs in just over a month doing honey diet) but its not very sustainable.

                              plus it really gets in the way of having a normal life...

                              Low fat + soft calorie tracking + moderate cardio has been the most sustainable low stress weight loss diet I've done. Aint broke=dont fix

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                              • alfredoolivasA Offline
                                alfredoolivas @samson
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                                @samson yes and I did that type of diet last year and it worked but it wasn't as effective

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                                  sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                                  https://doi.org/10.1042/cs0600457

                                  found the study referencing the study suggesting tren reduces both muscle synthesis as well as breakdown but reduces breakdown more ∴ it is anabolic to muscle

                                  also says something about glucocorticoids

                                  but main part of study says muscle put on with dianabol is different than normal muscle (i think) in that it is more contractile tissue and less water but im lazily reading it rn

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                                  • alfredoolivasA Offline
                                    alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                                    @sunsunsun Great find sushi

                                    I think it was reffering to this study

                                    It used a HED of 70mg a week for an 80kg man, which is a very low dose. They measured protein synthesis by measuring the concentration of RNA in muscle, which usually increases during AAS administration, but fell during trenbolone treatment. The tren rats had less amino acids in their muscle, indicating less muscle breakdown and more nitrogen per kg of bodyweights and normal organ sizes (actually less as a percent of bodyweight) it's interesting. to see its' unique effects

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                                    • engineerE Offline
                                      engineer @alfredoolivas
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                                      unfortunately it looks like if you want to lose fat not super slowly, you need to endure some FAO

                                      https://substack.com/home/post/p-189515524

                                      the trick is, though, to limit FAO to short periods like at night or between meals during the day in order to not rely on cortisol and instead just stored glycogen and fat

                                      this seems to be working for me super well

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                                        alfredoolivas
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                                        😨 😨 😨 😨 😨 😨 😨 😨
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                                          sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                                          @alfredoolivas do you think the phopshate deficient muscle that dbol puts on in that study is basically meaning that while gaining lean massthat ca:p ratio being lower is actually ok? on some bodybuilder diets phosphate can be 7.5g per day and i dont know if it is ok to have calcium come up even near that high.

                                          i guess the only way to know is to do blood work to see serum levels

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                                            alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                                            @sunsunsun possible that dianabol, 17a estradiol or 17a methyl 1 testosterone or any of it's metabolites are diuretics... authors say it could be pottasium counteracting the phosphorus
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