@tubert I have tried them separately with months apart (not taken together). Both produces immediate weight gain, edema, bloating, and the other symptoms I wrote. Small differences exist in how they feel, but my main point is, what is the reason they can produce symptoms that look like high estrogen, when they are supposed to lower water retention, estrogen...

Do most people just get the expected effect where it lowers estrogen symptoms?

@Mauritio what did you do to tolerate t3? Im skinny but cant handle even a dose smaller than what you mentioned, get same side effects. Now that you tolerate it better, what benefits is it giving you? did you solve any health problems with using t3? The whole idea from what I read is it should reduce estrogenic symptoms and edema, so I can't really figure out how it does the opposite in some people

@Jakeandpace Yes I eat liver and oysters. I spend time in the sun and had my vitamin d tested which was 42 ng/ml. Get lots of milk, orange juice, cheese....

@vocedilegno my diet is very good, nutritious and pretty high in carbs for many years. I don't think I'm lacking those nutrients. i spend a good deal of time in the sun

I have tried supplementing with those vitamins and minerals at different times, they didn't do anything good and I just gut side effects from them...

Anyone else who gets really severe estrogenic effects from small doses of t3 or progesterone? Breast growth (male), edema, immediate gain of pounds of weight (water?), emotional, depression... Even 1 mcg of t3 or just a few milligrams of progesterone causes it and it takes weeks to go away from just a single dose of either one

why is this happening? any input appreciated