@LetTheRedeemed

"I believe Ray said something like until you get the gut fixed, going after liver/thyroid won’t work well because you will have a continued source of estrogen and serotonin elevation via gut health, impacting liver/thyroid"

Ray said lots of things about gut health and very little of it makes sense. Estrogen only has a modulatory role in gut transit and gut function in general. There's no way for it to greatly influence or impact homeostasis in the gut. Again with the serotonin shit..you do know that the very thing that allows the intestines to contract and perform a bowel movement rely almost exclusively on serotonin, right? Both the ENS and MMC rely exclusively on multiple 5-HT receptors given that the gut houses of 95% serotonin receptors and produces 90% of serotonin. it's in everything from the enterocytes to the microvilli. The gut does not and cannot function optimally without it. Cascara anthroquinones, the darling of Peats bowel stimulants retards MMC by down regulating serotonin receptors in the gut and can also damages enteric neurons due to how powerfully it causes contractions in intestines. Those painful cow patties it produces after using it for a while and senna for that matter are because the MMC and ENS are not doing what they are supposed to be doing, and they need serotonin receptors to do it. There's not some magical alternate pathway you can tap into through focussing solely on cellular respiration. That's just how it is

@LetTheRedeemed

No it doesn't. It relies on MMC function which is controlled by the ENS which is controlled by...dun dun dun dun....serotonin receptors in the gut scary stuff. Just because thyroid provides cellular energy does not mean it is also dictating the functioning of every single biomechanical function in the body.. This is the logical fallacy that a lot of Peat proponents use to insert thyroid function into everything and being the deciding factor in everything. It can be a kink in the chain, but it's not the entirety of the chain

There isn't one. The recession of gums has nothing to do with soft plaque.

Preventing soft plaque is not going to cause that tissue to grow back as the enzymes that have been released into that tissue like collagenase, elastase, fibrinase, and inflammatory biomarkers like TNFa are there to stay as long as the biofilms are there to stay.

If you try and push the biofilms out with aggressive antibiotic usage then the biofilms push back by releasing more enzymes to breakdown more of the tissue for them to feed upon. It seems like in theory if you could somehow improve immunity to be hyper resistant against oral pathogens then the oral cavity would be in such an environment that elements of that microbiome that might aid in tissue regeneration might be able to flourish. Microbiome science is in its infancy though even now, so no such thing has been discovered as of yet and everything points to the fact that once a non-complimentary biofilm has taken root in a tissue that isn't your gut, it's there to stay for the longhaul. Doing things for your gut will improve immunity, but given that the bacteria that inhabit the oral cavity have nothing to do with the gut, probiotics and such is not doing much of anything for the situation, and antibiotics will definitely make the situation worse. Sub-clinical doses of doxycycline, about 20mg a day have been found to prevent the bone resorption though accelerated by the biofilms in plaques and oral tissue by inhibiting MMP's which will lessen the rate of decay below the gum line which might lessen gum recession

Unless you are pressing that bulb to your skin, you are not exposing tissues to red light with an incandescent bulb. It's mostly NIFR, and FIR. There's a reason why redlight therapy devices or anything to do with PBM uses LED's, or laser diodes. They don't produce tonnes of heat. heat/radiation is the enemy of red light exposure, and spectrum based PBM in general

Your skin will react to the NIFR and FIR, but it's not activating the same kind of things or causing the same responses as what happens when you expose your body to pure wavelengths of the redlight spectrum sans heat. Even if you could somehow tolerate being an inch or so away from a chicken broiling lamp or something of that nature, you'd still not be getting a high intensity of redlight either way.

You are already getting plenty of NIFR and FIR from sunlight exposure during the day

@mexican_coke_fan said in Malassezia nuking protocol:

@CurmudgeonApple
Can you share more about how you'd take each of those things? Just eat them throughout the day?

The meat, or the other things i mentioned?

I take the marshmallow root here and there throughout the day, aloe on an empty stomach first thing in the morning, carrot salad the same, castor and black seed oil a tsp here and there throughout the day, but usually before meals. Broths, meat etc with meals, or just as snacks, and the psyllium i usually take before meals.

It's been better than Cascara for me in terms of bowel health(stung like hell. Watery cow patties) despite everything Peat claimed about soluble fiber, it's not been my experience. though, I always suspected Peat might have had gut permeability from his recreational use of antibiotics. Even a tiny dosage of a tetracyline can annihilate an entire population of niacin forming bacteria and oxalobacter. There is no such thing as a "safe" amount of antibiotic use IMO and i would be generally leery of anything Peat had to say about the gut. IME at least. YMMV

@HyperTorless2 said in The Dental Care Thread:

Important addition: chewing mastic gum is proven to kick out the bad bacteria out of your mouth. It can also helps with remineralization plaque and gingivitis
(http://dx.doi.org/10.1902/jop.2003.74.4.501 , https://doi.org/10.2319/122205-455r.1 , https://www.cabidigitallibrary.org/doi/full/10.5555/20093184339).

Lmao...most of those studies are showing a 4% and less decrease in gingival plaque indexes. I'd never touch the stuff but Chlorhexidine, has shown inhibition of GPI of almost 100% in some studies. "Statistical significance" doesn't mean what you would assume it means in scientific gobbledygook

They don't even have a proposed mechanism for it, so it's probably just increased saliva production from mastication. You can get the same benefit from any other gum, or cheese. Cheese because of it releasing histamine which increases muscarinic receptors will far surpass any gum for salivary secretions

I haven't seen any studies to support it, but i would imagine that pine tar/resin based chewing gums might be quite effective. Pine tars and resins can actually prevent the ability for cells to produce abnormally e.g mast cell degranulation(gum swelling etc), so not as basic in function as a regular antifungal/bacterial, which means there is little chance that anaerobic gram negative bacteria can become resistant to it

@oldchem nopes, they just seem to be alt right racists and twitter opportunist scumbags now. Just seems like the other extreme to me, and i know Peat said he doesn't care how his message gets out there as long as it does(paraphrasing)i think he would throw pause at racists giving the fact he was vehemently opposed to the idea of eugenics, and i don't recall him ever explicitly claiming it or otherwise, but his rants on infrastructures and governments on Roddy's podcast gave the impression he's a progressive to me, though that assessment might be inaccurate as i've never really cared for politics in general.

Was pretty baffled when i came back to the RPF forum since leaving it in about 2015 to find that was kind of the status quo there though. It just snowballed over to social media and breeded retards like that BAP wannabe "SolBrah" etc

I'm not angry about it though..i'm a little too self aware to truly pay heed or give a real shit about any of this turnaround, but as a passive observer who's been aware of the "Peatsphere" since about 2013-14, it's surprising to see how the community has devolved into disparate political ideologies and theism/Christian Fundamentalist bible thumpers. It was a lot more grassroots way back.

Also, i don't ever remember Charlie not being an absolute tool. He was just less present in the early days, but the few times he did make an appearance it was clear to most the kind of person he likely is

@brenn if it works, who cares? Try it and see. It's not going to have any systemic effects anyways applying it to the scalp

@Not_James_Bond said in Malassezia nuking protocol:

@CurmudgeonApple Yep, Ever tried Marshmallow root?, I find anything that can help the gut helps everything.

Yeah, that's kind of the thinking i have gravitated to as well. Just not the myopic throw probiotics at everything approach. I am drinking a marshmallow root concoction right now funnily enough

@Not_James_Bond i was eating a lot of meat with connective tissue and bone broths, beef gelatin, so i was getting plenty of L-Glutamine i imagine. There are some studies showing that L-Glutamine can repair tight junction function though, so it will probably be equally as effective