Heres a rather disappointing rat study using 5a hydroxy laxogenin.
It showed no androgenic or anabolic effect. It was even catabolic at some doses.
The androgen receptor density was increased .
Quite odd ...the authors think the dosage might be too low or the fast degradation into inactive metabolites might play a role.
Maybe the metabolism is different in humans. We'll see as I've already ordered it.
https://analyticalsciencejournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/dta.3881