Yea I'd agree with most of what you said. Ray wrote in an early article of his as a rebuttal to someone speaking of VA toxicity that cultures that tend to eat the liver also tend to eat the thyroid.
I know Danny Roddy still takes thyroid despite years of Peating and I'd say that the two work best together, that being liver and thyroid. And you can chuck the oysters in there as well (in fact you probably should).
@yerrag said in What defines the 'bile dump' the Charlie forum always talks about?:
Until they do, they have no business blaming vitamin A for this putative toxic state when all along they leave the door open to be hypothyroid enough to make themselves unable to properly and normally metabolize vitamin A.
This is why I think this prescription that people hand out that "everyone must eat liver to be healthy" is dangerous. I don't think you do this, in fact I've got no idea but it's an ever increasing trend that leaves those in a compromised health state to become even more compromised. I think generalising that liver is good for someone can be dangerous because the person will often times only look surface level and start eating liver without considering other factors that if they are lacking in could cause the extra vitamin A to do damage. Most people don't have the money, time, and mental bandwidth to make these kind of inclusions into their life and will end up doing more harm than good. Like for myself I simply don't know how to use thyroid properly and would need to do a lot of reading to learn. In the meantime I won't be eating liver until I learn and I wouldn't suggest anyone else to.
In an ideal society we shouldn't even have to think about diet too much and having to balance this with that and micromanage everything. It is nice to know but these concepts should all be baked into the cuisine, culture and science. If only it were congruent and not so disjointed. This is going off topic but I wrote a post in my own thread about how religion and traditions maintain a good diet, like how catholics eat certain foods on certain days and I believe the jewish have a liver dish. Ideally diet should be in the background and not the foreground and doctors would be well versed on how to properly diagnose hypothyroidism if it even came to that.
https://www.jlr.org/article/S0022-2275(20)36724-9/pdf
Back on topic though I find it interesting that at higher doses Retinol actually suppresses the release of RBP and at a more therapeutic dose increase it. But then again if you constantly increasing your RBP and not getting enough zinc you will run into problems, thus start the vicious cycle. This is probably why Ray recommends the oysters.
And if you don't get enough vitamin A then your liver will not release all that pent up RBP, so it really is a balancing act.