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    • CO3C
      CO3
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      Worst health factors in work:

      • Repetitive, breathless physical work

      • Cleaning products

      • Constant cold

      • Mold (airconditioning)

      Better than people think:

      • Boredom

      Basically making this thread to discuss things at workplaces that can be damaging to our health, the choices we make with regards to work, and our ability to choose workplaces that are least damaging.

      My advice, if you're putting yourself through college or you are just in a situation where you need to work shit jobs (been there), focus on getting a boring job rather than one that is hard. People like to romanticize hard labor, but so little of it in the west is actually meaningfully generative. To protect yourself, sometimes it's better to find really boring work. Improving your metabolism can help you deal with boredom too. Not saying that boredom is not inhumane, we are not meant to do it, but it will damage you less than let's say working in an Amazon warehouse.

      Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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      • ?
        A Former User @CO3
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        @CO3 While you're stealing time from the employer not working and getting paid, take advantage of the opportunity to read books on the job. And if you're illiterate, as most people are, at least listen to something to try to learn and better yourself, if you're on company time performing a meaningless job.

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        • ?
          A Former User
          last edited by A Former User

          Don’t forget the constant blue light exposure from LED and fluorescent lights.
          alt text!

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          • BlooDrinker420B
            BlooDrinker420
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            Worst part about my workplace is the restrooms are always crowded af so I can't push out my carrot logs in peace.

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            • Norwegian MugabeN
              Norwegian Mugabe
              last edited by Norwegian Mugabe

              Low stress, enjoyable people, much freedom, and good financial compensation are important to me. Meaning and self-realization are not as important for me as it seems to be for some others. I know several female doctors who elected that career as "a calling", yet they are miserable, and I am healthy and risible

              A new large study in Norway shows that over half of Norwegians think they only need 700K NOK in salary to be happy. This study was completed as there was much interest in Empower's study from America that caught the public eye earlier this year.

              "The survey found men asked for about $381,000 a year to be happy, compared to $183,000 for women. Millennials asked for roughly $525,000 a year, Generation Z wanted $128,000, Generation X wanted $130,000 and baby boomers wanted $124,000."

              If people find similar studies from other countries, then please post them. I find these numbers to be interesting. I cannot help to think that Norwegians must live better lives than Americans.

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              Good retirement benefits are almost always overlooked. Most people barely think about their pension. I recommend watching the documentary below. In Norway and USA, there is much you can do to improve your pension. I assume it is the same in most countries, but most people do not pay it any attention.

              Youtube Video

              https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/nov/21/millennials-report-needing-more-than-500000-year-t/

              https://www.nrk.no/norge/dette-vil-nordmenn-tjene-for-a-leve-livet-fullt-ut-1.16804914

              Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

              Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                pittybitty @Norwegian Mugabe
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                @Norwegian-Mugabe Millenials, 500k. What the actual fuck.

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                • Norwegian MugabeN
                  Norwegian Mugabe @pittybitty
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                  @pittybitty I could not believe those numbers either. The average Millennial salary is about $47,034, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The Milenial generation seems to be the most liberal and egoistic generation. What do you need 500K USD for? It is crazy that Americans are so obsessed with money. Why is this the case? Other western countries are also free-market economies with marketing and social media. Why are Americans so materialistic? Money beyond actual need is certainly overvalued. So many people are willing to sacrifice spare time and health for fiat money. It seems hard to understand.

                  Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                  Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                  • CO3C
                    CO3 @Norwegian Mugabe
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                    @Norwegian-Mugabe said in Work and health:

                    I cannot help to think that Norwegians must live better lives than Americans.

                    That's basic knowledge. Socialism works very well to relieve suffering, even in a diluted form.

                    Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                    • Norwegian MugabeN
                      Norwegian Mugabe @CO3
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                      @CO3 I think better genetics and cultural homogeneity are more important factors than socialism. USA is a socialist country too.

                      America has no surviving intellectual tradition besides progressivism — which is no more than a synonym for communism… Communism is as American as apple pie, and America today is a completely communist country -
                      Curtis Yarvin.

                      Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                      Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                      • CO3C
                        CO3 @Norwegian Mugabe
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                        @Norwegian-Mugabe said in Work and health:

                        @CO3 I think better genetics and cultural homogeneity are more important factors than socialism. USA is a socialist country too.

                        America has no surviving intellectual tradition besides progressivism — which is no more than a synonym for communism… Communism is as American as apple pie, and America today is a completely communist country -
                        Curtis Yarvin.

                        HAHAHAH you are so blatantly retarded

                        Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                        • Norwegian MugabeN
                          Norwegian Mugabe @CO3
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                          @CO3 This is your most mature and sophisticated argument yet. The truth is that America redistributes heavily from good to bad people (socialism). America would have been improved more by having Norway's gene pool and homogenous culture, than any change in economic policies could bring about. America was better before they got a welfare state.

                          Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                          Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                          • CO3C
                            CO3 @Norwegian Mugabe
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                            @Norwegian-Mugabe said in Work and health:

                            @CO3 This is your most mature and sophisticated argument yet. The truth is that America redistributes heavily from good to bad people (socialism). America would have been improved more by having Norway's gene pool and homogenous culture, than any change in economic policies could bring about. America was better before they got a welfare state.

                            lol

                            Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                              bot-mod @Norwegian Mugabe
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                              @Norwegian-Mugabe said in Work and health:

                              @pittybitty The Milenial generation seems to be the most liberal and egoistic generation. What do you need 500K USD for? It is crazy that Americans are so obsessed with money. Why is this the case? Other western countries are also free-market economies with marketing and social media. Why are Americans so materialistic?

                              They're just instinctively pessimistic about the continual erosion of price discovery.

                              https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/76899

                              The wheels came off because the west empowered the corporate by personifying legal instruments. Power has been concentrating and compounding ever since, in hands that don't actually exist. And with supranational institutions and legal structures, entire nations became pawns in a big game.

                              No one can understand what's happening without reading the statute book in their country and coming to know the law. That's a reading that would need to be focused on one area or another. For the book will be too long for an individual to read, let alone interpret in a lifetime. How convenient.

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                                bot-mod @A Former User
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                                @jwayne said in Work and health:

                                @CO3 While you're stealing time from the employer not working and getting paid, take advantage of the opportunity to read books on the job. And if you're illiterate, as most people are, at least listen to something to try to learn and better yourself, if you're on company time performing a meaningless job.

                                +1

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                                • DonkeyDudeD
                                  DonkeyDude
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                                  Sleep deprivation is another big thing. If you have any sleep trouble at all (and most hypometabolic people do) a standard Mon-Fri 9-5 (especially if it's actually 8-4 or worse) schedule will wreck your health, not to mention you will be basically stoned 24/7 without the enjoyable parts but with all the negative effects on life.

                                  I have been kind-of promoted at work, which means that instead of doing four 11-9 weekly shifts of a simple, repetitive menial job I'm supposed to perform complex mental work starting at 7 AM, five days a week. I'm already having thoughts of suicide/approaching the Russian embassy and asking for asylum/moving to a Western country to become a welfare leech after a month of this even though I make much more money than before.

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                                  • Norwegian MugabeN
                                    Norwegian Mugabe @DonkeyDude
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                                    @DonkeyDude White men do not get the dole.

                                    Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                                    Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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