Androsterone
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@Mulloch94 Thanks.
It's okay, probably the closest DHT analogue to what DHT will actually provide, but there's still some degree of difference. The benefits I notice was increase thermogenesis and emotional resilience. It could also relax me well, but this can quickly turn into a negative if you over do it. Androsterone, to me anyways, was powerfully GABAnergic. It rivals progesterone in this regard in terms of it's effects. To much andro will make me crash.
How did you apply it and how much? Other benefits?
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@Kilgore I initially started with 5-7 drops applied to my navel area as per this recommendation. Then I started adding to my pulse points later on, like my wrists, side of the neck, etc. when I was experimenting with it as a pheromone. I still felt the physical effects even when applied to pulse points, but if you're using it solely for it's physiological effects then might as well apply it to the navel to increase absorption.
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@Mulloch94 Thanks.
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@Mulloch94 do you take it with something else? Don’t you get low estrogen symptoms from that many drops?
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@Kilgore i found it to be as the initial thread on rpf said: men listen, (some) women fawn. I also had some increased norwooding, so tread carefully (but i have extenuating circumstances behind that)
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@RePeat said in Androsterone:
norwooding
Oh nooooo not the nword ffs. Hair and cocksize are the two things I refuse to give up in order become superhuman.
initial thread on rpf
Ill have to read through that but its a 100 pages.....
Thanks anyway.
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@GreekDemiGod I took it with Pansterone, applied to the scrotum. The undesirable excessive GABA effects hit me long before the low E symptoms do. Same with large amount of DHT. But andro is slightly worse about this. I hypothesize that it's because DHT breaks down into both andro and epiandro, so you're likely getting a little bit of adrenaline with the DHT that you don't get with the androsterone. I've never used either of them in full 6-8 week cycles, so maybe if someone stuck with it they'd start getting low estrogen idk.
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If you're already hypogonadal then you might have low estrogen from the start, which makes this an entirely different ball game. Hypogonadal males should probably stay clear of the 5-ar's until they get their T levels back in the green.
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@Mulloch94 what would you suggest for someone has low estrogen and want to increase it?
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Everyone has good things to say about androsterone but I've actually had a bad experience with it the couple times I've used it. I feel like it tanks your estrogen too low and gives you the classic symptoms of low estrogen like achy joints + I got a lot of aggression and coldness when taking it. These symptoms aren't as pronounced with 1mg or 2mg as it is with something like 8mg, especially when applied topically to the scrotum. Androsterone definitely can kill your sex drive/lower erection strength at high enough dosages.
With progesterone I feel happy, joyful, and relaxed, androsterone I feel like an emotionless psychopath. My goal in taking androsterone was facial masculinization which I don't think turned out too bad, though I cannot fairly make a comparison. I probably wouldn't take it again, maybe only a drop or two a day.
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@Mulloch94 Is there like a good overview on everything you said + more on male hormones you can recommend? Like A to Z stuff. Or I will have to pick bits up here and there? Im so lost lol.
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@Mulloch94 said in Androsterone:
I actually noticed it's pheromonal effects working for me, quite well in fact.
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@milkgains_bro said in Androsterone:
@Mulloch94 what would you suggest for someone has low estrogen and want to increase it?
I guess it depends on how low. If you're hypogonadal, I think TRT without an estrogen antagonist will bring the levels up nicely. If it starts to get too high you can always take lower dosages of T more frequently, which seems to work well for some people.
If you've got good T levels then you can use something like Boron daily to bring the E2 levels back up into the range. Some people might recommend 5-ar inhibitors, which will work, but they will many other issues, so I wouldn't advise that method.
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@Sugar Don't put androsterone on your balls or dick, I learned that lesson the hard way. You'll get some limp dick action going, lol.
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone:
@Mulloch94 Is there like a good overview on everything you said + more on male hormones you can recommend? Like A to Z stuff. Or I will have to pick bits up here and there? Im so lost lol.
Your best source will probably be to read all the user reports on the RPF. Most of the studies are posted there too. A LOT of people were reporting that the higher dosages gave them issues, while the lower dosages seemed to do all right. Several of them also used pansterone with it as well.
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@Mulloch94 Oh I forgot to mention that I also ordered cortinon (progesterone + DHEA 3:1 ratio). I read somewhere that the ratio should be: 9:1 cortinon:androsterone in order to help balance side effects.
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A side comment on the smell, I have both 11-keto-DHT and Androsterone and to me they smell the same, but maybe it's individual, how we perceive these substances, at least olfactorily.
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Twitter Thread by Chudlord on everything about Androsterone: https://x.com/PunishedChudy/status/1787473517916619126
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I'm currently supplementing Androsterone along with Progesterone and DHEA to help prevent any conversion into estrogen. I take 5mg of andro, 5mg of DHEA and 40mg of progesterone.
I also noticed that taking them changed my body odour in my research this can be an indication of an increase of androgens.
I've definitely noticed a reduction in stress and a big increase in libido.
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@Verdad I know you posted this a while ago but was the change in odour a pleasant smell? Assuming no deodorant did you smell better before or after using the Androsterone?