Androsterone
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If you're already hypogonadal then you might have low estrogen from the start, which makes this an entirely different ball game. Hypogonadal males should probably stay clear of the 5-ar's until they get their T levels back in the green.
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@Mulloch94 what would you suggest for someone has low estrogen and want to increase it?
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Everyone has good things to say about androsterone but I've actually had a bad experience with it the couple times I've used it. I feel like it tanks your estrogen too low and gives you the classic symptoms of low estrogen like achy joints + I got a lot of aggression and coldness when taking it. These symptoms aren't as pronounced with 1mg or 2mg as it is with something like 8mg, especially when applied topically to the scrotum. Androsterone definitely can kill your sex drive/lower erection strength at high enough dosages.
With progesterone I feel happy, joyful, and relaxed, androsterone I feel like an emotionless psychopath. My goal in taking androsterone was facial masculinization which I don't think turned out too bad, though I cannot fairly make a comparison. I probably wouldn't take it again, maybe only a drop or two a day.
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@Mulloch94 Is there like a good overview on everything you said + more on male hormones you can recommend? Like A to Z stuff. Or I will have to pick bits up here and there? Im so lost lol.
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@Mulloch94 said in Androsterone:
I actually noticed it's pheromonal effects working for me, quite well in fact.
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@milkgains_bro said in Androsterone:
@Mulloch94 what would you suggest for someone has low estrogen and want to increase it?
I guess it depends on how low. If you're hypogonadal, I think TRT without an estrogen antagonist will bring the levels up nicely. If it starts to get too high you can always take lower dosages of T more frequently, which seems to work well for some people.
If you've got good T levels then you can use something like Boron daily to bring the E2 levels back up into the range. Some people might recommend 5-ar inhibitors, which will work, but they will many other issues, so I wouldn't advise that method.
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@Sugar Don't put androsterone on your balls or dick, I learned that lesson the hard way. You'll get some limp dick action going, lol.
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone:
@Mulloch94 Is there like a good overview on everything you said + more on male hormones you can recommend? Like A to Z stuff. Or I will have to pick bits up here and there? Im so lost lol.
Your best source will probably be to read all the user reports on the RPF. Most of the studies are posted there too. A LOT of people were reporting that the higher dosages gave them issues, while the lower dosages seemed to do all right. Several of them also used pansterone with it as well.
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@Mulloch94 Oh I forgot to mention that I also ordered cortinon (progesterone + DHEA 3:1 ratio). I read somewhere that the ratio should be: 9:1 cortinon:androsterone in order to help balance side effects.
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A side comment on the smell, I have both 11-keto-DHT and Androsterone and to me they smell the same, but maybe it's individual, how we perceive these substances, at least olfactorily.
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Twitter Thread by Chudlord on everything about Androsterone: https://x.com/PunishedChudy/status/1787473517916619126
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I'm currently supplementing Androsterone along with Progesterone and DHEA to help prevent any conversion into estrogen. I take 5mg of andro, 5mg of DHEA and 40mg of progesterone.
I also noticed that taking them changed my body odour in my research this can be an indication of an increase of androgens.
I've definitely noticed a reduction in stress and a big increase in libido.
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@Verdad I know you posted this a while ago but was the change in odour a pleasant smell? Assuming no deodorant did you smell better before or after using the Androsterone?
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I have used it on and off for years. Biggest benefit I noticed was a calmness. No doubt from the GABA agonism. Unlike others I never noticed a pheromone effect but I’m also married and don’t look for it. But the calmness is definitely noticeable. I also noticed a thermogenic effect. Raising of pulse and temp. I have never tried more than 10 mg. I usually use topical.
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@Lothric as far as the Norwood effect, I have had a bad hairline and it’s been thinning for years now and I essentially cut my hair on a 1 now. Idk if this has exasperated the issue. Idk if the androgen theory is true but I refuse to crash my DHT for hair. I rather be bald and high DHT than have good hair and fuck it up
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@PrinceTrebata
I would not say it was a pleasant smell. It was not very bad or foul or anything but not pleasant either. In my recent supplementation I find this change of smell is significantly less than before but it is still there.
