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      Jaffe
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      Some of you guys sound paranoid. Charlie isn't Agent Smith from The Matrix to the point he's omnipresent. You're giving him too much credit.

      He's just a simpleton who found a new diet theology to cling to.

      The way he's morphed the forum, enacting rules, answering questions... it's all copy/paste.

      The "you don't disrespect me in my house" is a Garret Smith saying he uses for trolls on his youtube page and LYL program.

      The answers to he gives to questions are dumbed down Garrett Smith answers. When there is no answer to copy/paste, he leans on religion.

      The forum payment plan is a rip of Garrett Smith's network you have to pay into. Difference is Garrett Smith provides exclusive content. Charlie doesn't provide a damn thing AND content is viewable without paying. Do you see why he wants Haidut, Hans, Mercola etc to get onboard? It would validate the forum and drive traffic off of other content creator's work.

      The bannings of dissentful dialog. Again that's a Garrett Smith position for his private network. How that applies to a Ray Peat Forum that's not about Ray Peat anymore is comical.

      Remember those new rules everyone had to agree to a month or so ago, calling the forum a "Private Virtual Country Club?" That was pulled verbatim from another bible-thumping health forum he visits.

      Again, you give him too much credit. Everything about this transition was clumsy and obliterated the forum's traffic. The gaslighting "we're stronger than ever" isn't fooling anybody.

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        @ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:

        @JamesGatz

        What's cracking Gatz. How's Florida. Have you figured out Iman Gadzhi is another training program. Etc.

        Good to see you man. My location now isn't too bad, less focused on women and the internet and I'm just hyper-focused on my goals and generating wealth. I will eventually make a come-back to a strong online presence on YouTube and the like, but I first have to finish gathering more wealth and finish refunding my customers.

        Truthfully, I do try to stay more away from the internet now. It really isn't real and really places one in a mind-state where I'm just wasting time and distracting me from achieving my goals. I realize the people I dislike the most have pretty much been on the internet. I will start being a clown again though, but right now, I guess I am a different man. My life is on an up-wards projection and I know my growth will be explosive if I just focus on my goals and generating wealth right now.

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          Peatful @A Former User
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          @JamesGatz
          you know I care for you?

          You seem like a great guy.
          Full of character.
          A seeker.
          I really respect those qualities.

          Don’t chase temporal things.

          I am (far) better off being poor of material things; and rich in true Life.

          Find your love.
          Start your family.
          Money will follow.

          You may not see that simplicity now-
          maybe in time.

          All my best in your future adventures….

          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

          SD

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            Appa @A Former User
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            @JamesGatz Welcome back, great to see that you're still alive, good luck with your goals!

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              Mulloch94 @Jaffe
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              @Jaffe I pretty much agree with everything you said. A year or two from now when the detox is still not working he'll find another theology, but rest assure, it will be a new one. He'll never walk back what he's done because I don't think he can swallow that embarrassment.

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                TheSir @yerrag
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                  risingfire
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                  So I've made it. Garret Smith blocked me on X.

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                    S.Holmes @risingfire
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                    @risingfire Good job! 🎉

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                      abhi @abhi
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                      @abhi now it looks even more strange 🙄 rpf.png

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                        Onza @abhi
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                        @abhi I get the same thing

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                          Amazoniac @Jaffe
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                          @Jaffe

                          I wasn't aware of the mirrored behavior, but it's indeed preferable for members to assume that the characteristic authoritarianism was disinhibited after an ideological justification was found (it happened to be poison A, but could be anything else) rather than being a product of some sinister conspiracy. The pattern of conduct remains the same, only amplified now because of overconfidence to unleash it.

                          The recent disposals aren't much different in quality than the elimination of members who disagreed with Ray on dietary minutiae in the past, dumping along without remorse whoever questioned.

                          On the last month, probably more than 50 members were eliminated over nothing, but we never know the full extent of the mess because many moves are sneaky and some members disappear afterwards. For example, what if CreakyJoints or Mauritio didn't voice?

                          By the way, to ask why a peer was banned isn't back-seat moderation. To seek an explanation not only is forbidden, but treated with punishment. What a joke.

                          The Ray Peat Forum disappointed the majority of the community formed through Ray, not realizing that those who remained supporters, indifferent to the absurds, may ditch them at any time to be embraced by the groups run by the very proponents that the staff promote. Professor Garrett has been a parasite of the forum since its creation, but it seems that its leaders are fully committed to reversing roles.

                          Reliance on social media posts by charlatans to keep the platform active is risky because supporters may soon realize that they can interact elsewhere without having to pay questionable fees, on existing groups dedicated to the ideology being imposed on the forum, while still consulting the material there. Giveaways are entertaining, but for $77/year, they may buy 3 products of those without depending on luck.

                          Since it's not lucrative to buy products from your own store, at this elimination pace, views count may become an important metric and putting barriers that lower them can be counterproductive.

                          On one hand, it's fair for the lion to not want the content to be scraped because of the maintenance factor throughout time. On the other hand, it's a collective effort that he's trying to appropriate.

                          That he panicked at the possibility of no longer possessing the material shows the degree of leadership insecurity. Otherwise, people could copy the information as much as they wanted, but they wouldn't be able to recreate the forum experience elsewhere because the leaders are playing a fundamental role, are adored and irreplaceable.

                          I now have a support page!

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                            risingfire @S.Holmes
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                            @S-Holmes thank you I'm going to wear it as a badge of honor

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                              risingfire
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                              My new favorite Charlie tidbit is he views tumors as a "bag of toxins." I don't think this man is serious

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                                Peatful
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                                I am madder than I’ve ever been with this ignorance

                                The defamation
                                All in the name of God of course

                                The illness

                                The stupidity

                                For context
                                Maybe scroll up in that thread

                                They are dumb
                                They don’t understand

                                Hey
                                Im dumb on some shtt too
                                But I don’t go around acting like an expert
                                Or using someone’s NAME and LIFES WORK for profit

                                Post in thread 'Ray Peat and "Toxic Bile Theory". In What Way do These Philosophies Differ?'

                                Edit:

                                https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peat-and-toxic-bile-theory-in-what-way-do-these-philosophies-differ.52792/

                                The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                SD

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                                  risingfire @Peatful
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                                  @Peatful

                                  Charlie: "how do we know Ray didn't live 'cancer free'"? The stupidity of this guy. Then he goes on and says Ray died a degenerative death many of us saw coming a mile away. He was 86 answering a ton of emails, writing newsletters and answering questions on podcasts and talk shows.

                                  Charlie, if you're reading this(which I'm sure you will as your neurotic psychopath) Keep Ray's name out of your mouth and your stupid forum!!

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                                    Peatful @risingfire
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                                    @risingfire “he drove the cancer deeper into his body”

                                    Unconscionable
                                    Ignorant

                                    Using his name for gain

                                    It’s people like this that hung Bonhoeffer….

                                    The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                    SD

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                                      ilovethesea @Jaffe
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                                      @Jaffe I agree that Charlie is a simpleton. Garrett is the one I’m not so sure about. The level of aggression and timing of his takeover at the same time as Mercola embracing Peat is all very odd.

                                      Garrett posts a lot about “controlled opposition” and “psy ops” suggesting that he himself is not - kind of strange for a nutritionist.

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                                        ilovethesea @Peatful
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                                        @Peatful I don’t get why he feels compelled to keep on maligning Ray. Not only does he dig in his heels at changing the forum name, he keeps on with this false narrative that Ray was unhealthy, ignorant, died prematurely, had cancer, etc etc etc.

                                        And then turns around in the same thread posting lame tweets from a “nutrition detective” and claims his diet cures everything under the sun. It’s all so absurd I can’t believe he is actually serious.

                                        Here he is in another thread insulting Georgi now... as if he’s not just parrotting Garrett Smith himself!

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                                          Peatful
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                                          Immoral
                                          Unethical
                                          Reprobate
                                          Stupid
                                          Sanctimonious

                                          Unwell

                                          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                          SD

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                                            Peatful
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                                            https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/is-this-still-the-ray-peat-forum-or-has-changed-to-low-toxic-lifestyle.52793/

                                            Let’s see how this soldier fares….

                                            The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                            SD

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