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Is Corn Good or Bad?

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    Isaac
    last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 10:00 PM

    based on ray peats work do you guys think corn is good or bad? I am very new to peating stuff.

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      CO3 @Isaac
      last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 10:13 PM

      @Isaac Starch causes fermentation in the gut and endotoxin. It would be good to avoid it, but many in this sphere choose to consume them still. It's probably because ripe fruits are hard to find and expensive.

      I eat starches occasionally too. One of the better ones is Nixtamalized corn. The lime (not the fruit) treatment this corn undergoes (where they turn into what they call hominy) provides it with more niacin and calcium, and makes it more digestible. This makes it one of the more preferable starches. Emphasis on the word 'more'.

      The best nixtamalized flour on the market (it is often labeled as such and/or the ingredients contain 'lime') is Naturelo imo. You can also try canned hominy, or sometimes mexican shops sell tortillas made with it.

      Unprocessed corn, especially on the cob or something, is definitely not a great source of carbs. I find it very hard to digest unprocessed. and the regular (un-nixtamalized) corn flour is probably better than something containing gluten.

      Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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        peatuguese @CO3
        last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 10:23 PM

        @CO3 I sometimes get the Blue one from Naturelo, but my tortillas don't come out as good as with normal yellow corn flour!! the taste is interesting though, probably i'm doing something wrong ahah do you use any coconut oil or butter?

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          A Former User
          last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 11:09 PM

          Dr Kellogg’s made cornflakes because he thought sexual thoughts were evil or something stupid

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            CO3 @peatuguese
            last edited by Mar 12, 2024, 11:16 PM

            @peatuguese to bake the tortillas? very hot pan, no oil. 1min one side, 45 seconds other side

            Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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              Kilgore @A Former User
              last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 12:04 AM

              @questforhealth Yes thats true.

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                BioEclectic
                last edited by BioEclectic Mar 13, 2024, 3:25 AM Mar 13, 2024, 2:07 AM

                Since im forgetting details i'll pose this next passage as questions.

                Are there glyphosate concerns with non-organic American corn products?

                And didn't Mexico recently outlaw GMO Roundup-ready corn? Are their products now safe to buy?

                Here's an article that alerted me to Mexican government legislation. I'll have to reread it but here it is, dated 7/19/201: https://thecounter.org/mexico-phaseout-glyphosate-genetically-engineered-corn-united-states/

                Normally i try to be more dilligent with straight answers, but since the topic has been brought up maybe someone here knows. Otherwise it may have been discussed in Ray interviews or even in the other forum...

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                  Ecstatic_Hamster
                  last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 2:09 AM

                  Corn is very good. I prefer nixtamalized corn by a long shot, as porridge or tortillas. It is one of my main starches, besides rice.

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                    BioEclectic
                    last edited by BioEclectic Mar 13, 2024, 2:17 AM Mar 13, 2024, 2:16 AM

                    But otherwise i agree, nixtamalized is the way to go. The ingredients list should state slaked lyme, aka calcium hydroxide. Apparently the low PH preps the starch well for human consumption.

                    There are other starch categories that benefit from low PH prep too btw.

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                      A Former User
                      last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 5:34 AM

                      Why don’t we eat fruits and sugar, monkeys evolved for that not crushing up grass seeds..

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                        A Former User
                        last edited by A Former User Mar 13, 2024, 9:00 AM Mar 13, 2024, 8:58 AM

                        Eating grains is literal madness, why would you eat a seed which doesn’t want to be eaten, no wonder everyone is so sick when we eat wheat that causes hardening of the arteries and pasteurised milk with the cereal... russian cat experiments show raw milk makes them healthy but pasteurised milk makes them sick in a few generations. absolutely degenerated food degenerating humanity for profits

                        even my dad and uncles all told me milk makes pigs sick when you feed them it and i know humans are similar enough to pigs with one stomach

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                          thyroidchor27 @A Former User
                          last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 9:23 AM

                          @questforhealth what about rice and stuff like maize , millet, gluten free stuff

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                            tubert @A Former User
                            last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 2:57 PM

                            @questforhealth milk makes pigs sick? Did you mean pasteurized milk?

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                              A Former User @tubert
                              last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 3:09 PM

                              @tubert

                              I don’t think my parents would have been pasteurising milk for pigs. I will ask

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                                Ecstatic_Hamster @A Former User
                                last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 3:10 PM

                                @questforhealth

                                @questforhealth said in Is Corn Good or Bad?:

                                Eating grains is literal madness, why would you eat a seed which doesn’t want to be eaten, no wonder everyone is so sick when we eat wheat that causes hardening of the arteries and pasteurised milk with the cereal... russian cat experiments show raw milk makes them healthy but pasteurised milk makes them sick in a few generations. absolutely degenerated food degenerating humanity for profits

                                even my dad and uncles all told me milk makes pigs sick when you feed them it and i know humans are similar enough to pigs with one stomach

                                Madness I tell you, madness!

                                Pasteurized milk seems fine to me. Tell it to Fred Kummerow who lived a fantastic active life to age 105 drinking 3 glasses of pasteurized whole milk every day.

                                The subject of the thread is corn, but you changed it to milk. So back to corn.

                                People who live to 100 or 110 or 120 eat a lot of starch. That's a fact.

                                Oatmeal
                                Potatoes
                                Rice
                                Grits (non nixtamalized corn)

                                Madness!!

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                                  A Former User @Ecstatic_Hamster
                                  last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 3:15 PM

                                  @Ecstatic_Hamster

                                  Maybe it’s the mixing of the food groups that causes more problems...

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                                    A Former User
                                    last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 3:23 PM

                                    Ok but in a basic sense aren’t carbs really just pig food, whales and dolphins are spiritually advanced and eat whole fish, why don’t we just eat more animals nose to tail to become more advanced beings

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                                      Ecstatic_Hamster @A Former User
                                      last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 3:33 PM

                                      @questforhealth said in Is Corn Good or Bad?:

                                      Ok but in a basic sense aren’t carbs really just pig food, whales and dolphins are spiritually advanced and eat whole fish, why don’t we just eat more animals nose to tail to become more advanced beings

                                      as I grow older I am attracted less and less to meat, and more and more to well cooked starch, a little dairy and animal protein.

                                      Carbs and well cooked vegetables are amazing. Fruit is amazing. Animal flesh is okay but not that much is more than enough.

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                                        A Former User @Ecstatic_Hamster
                                        last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 3:40 PM

                                        @Ecstatic_Hamster

                                        Ok maybe you are right I’ve been buying potatoes to plant today

                                        Supermarket stuff does taste like pig food, grown properly and naturally even carbs are nice for me. Euphoric

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                                          CO3 @A Former User
                                          last edited by Mar 13, 2024, 8:49 PM

                                          @questforhealth wrong forum go to sv3rige's telegram channel

                                          Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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