Androsterone Log
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
My Androsterone has arrived from Idealabs headquarters in Washington DC!
Planning to take 2 mg for now and see if I notice any changes. I also have CortiNon, but not planning to incorporate it for now.
I got the ethanol solvent and will just put two drops above the belly button area at night as recommended by folks on this thread.
Why don't you use DHT instead ?
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@Santosh said in Androsterone Log:
Why don't you use DHT instead ?
Tell me where I can get DHT from pal.
What are you expecting from androsterone ?
Apparently it has the most DHT like effects.
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
@Santosh said in Androsterone Log:
Why don't you use DHT instead ?
Tell me where I can get DHT from pal.
What are you expecting from androsterone ?
Apparently it has the most DHT like effects.
Purple Panda Labs, like any other steroid.
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@Santosh We already discussed it as it is a scammy site. Not sure I would trust it.
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Danny Roddy's latest video has a section on Ray Peat's views on the safety of different hormones.
03:18 - Ray Peat on steroid safety (androsterone, testosterone, and DHT)
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@DavidPS
Saw it already.
Don't care.
I know its not peaty.Surprised that so many people have these misconceptions tough. Maybe I shouldn't be. Quite a lot of people here are genuinely illiterate.
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
@Santosh We already discussed it as it is a scammy site. Not sure I would trust it.
So you discussed it and you think that makes it a definitive conclusion ?
I order from them quarterly about 1000€ worth of steroids and have every single batch tested by a third party lab.All shipments arrive within 5 weeks max and test at 98% purity every single time.
Your conclusions are based on random forum or reddit comments, certainly not from your experience or anyone you know.
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@Santosh said in Androsterone Log:
I order from them quarterly about 1000€ worth of steroids and have every single batch tested by a third party lab.
How do you do that?
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
@Santosh said in Androsterone Log:
I order from them quarterly about 1000€ worth of steroids and have every single batch tested by a third party lab.
How do you do that?
By being curious.
Guess who orders steroids : bodybuilders.
Go to bodybuilding forums and read as much as you can.
Years of reading forums behind my knowledge of steroids, where to order, where to test, what steps to put in place to order safely. -
@Santosh said in Androsterone Log:
@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
My Androsterone has arrived from Idealabs headquarters in Washington DC!
Planning to take 2 mg for now and see if I notice any changes. I also have CortiNon, but not planning to incorporate it for now.
I got the ethanol solvent and will just put two drops above the belly button area at night as recommended by folks on this thread.
Why don't you use DHT instead ?
What are you expecting from androsterone ?Well DHT is illegal, so there's that.
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
Apparently it has the most DHT like effects.
It does, the only extra benefit you'd be getting from DHT is DHT is initially more androgenic, but it also quickly breaks down. It also breaks down into more metabolites than just strictly androsterone. So I guess you could argue some of those other metabolites might also have positive effects. But I'm not even how sure how important this is considering androsterone has a "backdoor loop" where it can be converted back into DHT and thus DHT can then be broken down.
The real benefit to something like DHT is you can simply take more of it. Whereas androsterone is sold in tiny bottles to be used in physiological-like dosages. DHT can be slapped on at like 50, 100, 150 milligrams at a time.
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@DavidPS said in Androsterone Log:
Danny Roddy's latest video has a section on Ray Peat's views on the safety of different hormones.
03:18 - Ray Peat on steroid safety (androsterone, testosterone, and DHT)
That's a really important topic to watch. I think a lot of people get caught up in some of Haidut's research on androgens and their usefulness. They tend to forget Ray himself was kinda ambivalent about their usage in anything other than extreme situations.
Not saying people should or shouldn't use them. But exogenous androgen usage is not what I would call "peaty." And to Ray himself, he absolutely did not think anything was better than progesterone, lol. The "male progesterone" is progesterone to Ray. He seems to begrudgingly admit DHT might be safer than the others.
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@Santosh What do you think about alphagels? They are on twitter and followed by a lot of peaters. https://x.com/AlphaGels/status/1770091186293993530?s=20
@Mulloch94 Thanks for the comment. Learned a lot.
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
Also how to increase the number of Androgen receptors?
Training is a good way, like lifting heavy weights. Just don't over train. When you do train, train with intensity and velocity, but have several recovery days in between your lift days.
Stay away from any environmental pollutants that might harm your androgen receptors, most commonly different types of plastics. Water bottles, saran wrap, certain types of food containers, etc. A shit ton of cosmetic products are likely suspect as well. Keeping things as simple as possible would be best. Like using soap with minimal ingredients (ideally just glycerin and saponificated oil).
Supplementally there's likely very few things you can do to directly increase androgen receptors. I know vitamin D is very important in the health of AR receptors. But it doesn't really increase AR above baseline. Derek from more plates more dates was injecting l-carnitine a while back. I don't know if he still is. According to him, it's one of the few compounds that has been shown to directly increase AR receptors. L-carnitine is not something that's really viewed positively in bioenergetics iirc. I think Peat said it increases fat oxidation. Whether or not this can be mitigated with anti lipolic substances like aspirin or vitamin E is a mystery. I don't really know enough about L-carnitine to say.
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@Mulloch94
Yeah I saw this video on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtj5qqHvOs&t=88sHe mentions L-carnitine as well. Worth a watch.
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@Santosh what about heavy metals? Have you tested your steroids for those?
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
@Mulloch94
Yeah I saw this video on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtj5qqHvOs&t=88sHe mentions L-carnitine as well. Worth a watch.
Interesting video, and he pretty much makes good points about all of it. I forgot about glycine upregulating AR and 5-ar as well, but that is correct. I think Haidut even posted something about that on the RPF several years ago. So taking some glycine or getting some gelatin in your diet will probably help too.
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@Kilgore said in Androsterone Log:
@onliest My balls had this weird feeling inside them too. Certain heaviness. I get that feeling if I don't cum during sexual interaction or edging.
I read from some people (on Twitter) that their balls got bigger. I am not sure if that has happened to me yet.
In general, I have pretty big and sensitive balls; I had to show them to my father multiple times over the years because I was scared I had testicular cancer. If I wear pants that are too tight (even though I don't feel that they are tight myself) within a couple hours, I get immense pain down there, like I can't even breathe. I certainly want to keep them the same size.
Me bals are very big, very and very big!
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@basednigga2006 big big big balllsssss. (But also sensitive)
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Been taking 1mg andro (on gums) a day + 5mg preg+DHEA. Deffo a thyroid mimetic. I also am getting more buff, thats what the people are saying at least.