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The relationship between Candida infections and heavy metal toxicity

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  • M
    Mauritio
    last edited by Mar 31, 2024, 2:52 PM

    I have taken MCP again today and there is definitely an androgenic effect of it. Not sure if it's due to metal detox or something else.
    I think the last time it lasted quite long, but eventually subsided.
    Other than that Im not sure what I noticed effects have been inconcsistent, will keep taking it once a week or so.

    Dare to think.

    My X:
    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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      A Former User @Mauritio
      last edited by A Former User Mar 31, 2024, 3:06 PM Mar 31, 2024, 3:05 PM

      @Mauritio

      No, nothing else has ever done that to me really

      Wonder if it's important to take it on an empty stomach. To make sure it absorbs properly. I don't take it every day I just take it then load up on thiamine a few days then take it again as it gives me a mild thiamine deficiency if im not careful

      Looking at childhood pictures is depressing. Eyes looked so clear. Now they have brown deposits. 100% heavy metals. Scary stuff

      PLEASE TAKE THIAMINE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS, YES ITS GENTLE BUT YOU COULD DIE STILL I THINK, TAKE THIAMINE AT A FAIRLY HIGH DOSE, AS HIGH AS IS SAFE FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE IT GOES SMOOTHLY AS I HAD THIAMINE DEFICIENCY SYMPTOMS

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        Mauritio @A Former User
        last edited by Mar 31, 2024, 3:20 PM

        @questforhealth said in The relationship between Candida infections and heavy metal toxicity:

        @Mauritio

        No, nothing else has ever done that to me really

        Wonder if it's important to take it on an empty stomach. To make sure it absorbs properly. I don't take it every day I just take it then load up on thiamine a few days then take it again as it gives me a mild thiamine deficiency if im not careful

        Looking at childhood pictures is depressing. Eyes looked so clear. Now they have brown deposits. 100% heavy metals. Scary stuff

        PLEASE TAKE THIAMINE IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS, YES ITS GENTLE BUT YOU COULD DIE STILL I THINK, TAKE THIAMINE AT A FAIRLY HIGH DOSE, AS HIGH AS IS SAFE FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE IT GOES SMOOTHLY AS I HAD THIAMINE DEFICIENCY SYMPTOMS

        Interesting.
        I try to take it at least 30 minutes away from food.

        What thiamine deficiency symptoms did you get?

        Dare to think.

        My X:
        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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          A Former User @Mauritio
          last edited by A Former User Mar 31, 2024, 3:23 PM Mar 31, 2024, 3:22 PM

          @Mauritio

          Fatigue, limb pains and unrefreshing sleep. Took 100mg today immediately relaxed my body and went to sleep.

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            Mauritio @A Former User
            last edited by Mar 31, 2024, 3:26 PM

            @questforhealth said in The relationship between Candida infections and heavy metal toxicity:

            @Mauritio

            Fatigue, limb pains and unrefreshing sleep. Took 100mg today immediately relaxed my body and went to sleep.

            Interesting , that doesnt necesarily have to be b1 deficiency, but if it helps... I might try that too, since I also had unrefreshing sleep from taking it, although it got less intense with every time I took it.

            I think if someone has serious health issues that dont seem to go away and has tried "everything else" then this is worth a try.
            If the theory behind it is true then MoA is safe as well.

            Dare to think.

            My X:
            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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              Mauritio
              last edited by Mar 31, 2024, 3:29 PM

              These 5 case studies are super interesting.
              Although done by the owner of the supplement company that produces MCP.

              https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5632959_Integrative_Medicine_and_the_Role_of_Modified_Citrus_PectinAlginates_in_Heavy_MetIntegrative_Medicine_and_the_Role_of_Modified_Citrus_PectinAlginates_in_Heavy_Metal_Chelation_and_Detoxification_-_Five

              Dare to think.

              My X:
              x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                A Former User @Mauritio
                last edited by A Former User Mar 31, 2024, 3:35 PM Mar 31, 2024, 3:30 PM

                @Mauritio

                Hmm.. Bit skeptical now. What about one that isn't done by him.

                Hopefully this isn't a trap to kill people seeking alternative treatments.

                But it's really been slowly changing my life so you know... Maybe not all total bs

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                  A Former User
                  last edited by Mar 31, 2024, 7:00 PM

                  @Mauritio
                  https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/b-coagulans-decreases-endotoxin-liver-fibrosis-and-serotonin.39609/post-624195

                  I'm currently reading about the impact of soil bacteria on human health. Like eating unwashed vegetables with soil on them sort of thing... Crazy or not idk but going to make a post about it soon.

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                    A Former User
                    last edited by A Former User Mar 31, 2024, 8:27 PM Mar 31, 2024, 8:10 PM

                    Wow. Holy shit. Call me crazy

                    Just ate a teaspoon of soil and I have a taste in my mouth that is almost identical to the grass fed meat I buy which comes from a farm who places SO MUCH priority on their soil health. Probably means my soil contains the right microbes to be healthy if it works for their sheep and cattle.

                    I almost crave the soil I just ate. Let's see what happens.

                    Wondering if I should just eat raw vegetables, raw meat, raw milk, kefirs, raw chocolate for a week to try fix the gut. Sounds insane but when you really look it up even salmonella makes B vitamins in the gut so stay open minded always.... Its important

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                      A Former User
                      last edited by A Former User Mar 31, 2024, 10:39 PM Mar 31, 2024, 10:08 PM

                      Youtube Video

                      This might help too

                      sorry for spamming the thead I feel totally manic any time I get a small surge of energy... mercury really does a number on you... eating spoons of soil man wtf

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                        A Former User
                        last edited by A Former User Apr 4, 2024, 12:15 PM Apr 4, 2024, 12:13 PM

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                          A Former User
                          last edited by A Former User Apr 4, 2024, 1:38 PM Apr 4, 2024, 1:33 PM

                          @Mauritio

                          Oi oi

                          I'm looking into bamboo silica for aluminium now. You taken this before?

                          maybe not much to do with candida but if it helps gets a calm mind to detox aluminium out the brain then that can help with candida/digestion issues no?

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                            cs3000 @A Former User
                            last edited by cs3000 Apr 9, 2024, 8:58 AM Apr 4, 2024, 1:52 PM

                            @Mauritio interesting one , & looks effective for many metals (patented product mentioned but plenty of mention of pectin use for this all over)
                            https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6949457_The_effect_of_modified_citrus_pectin_on_urinary_excretion_of_toxic_elements
                            ^
                            also cadmium & arsenic with main effect on lead as mentioned. (BUT this urinary excretion isnt as good as it sounds given by the modified form, the % increases are still low absolute amounts excreted by urine)

                            and this one stood out, normal apple pectin also works (here its used to lower radioactive Caesium levels in children exposed to contaminated food in Chernobyl. and given without any more contaminated food so it didnt only block absorption of new toxic metals it helped actively eliminate them:

                            Reducing the 137Cs-load in the organism of "Chernobyl" children with apple-pectin
                            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14745664/

                            • "In this clean radiological environment only radiologically "clean" food is given to the children. The average reduction of the 137Cs levels in children receiving oral pectin powder was 62.6%, the reduction with "clean" food and placebo was 13.9%, the difference being statistically significant (p <0.01). "

                            (i'd bet would increase zinc copper & iron elimination too though so probably not best long term, but maybe good for a cycle to get rid of some stuff)

                            --
                            @questforhealth i think the only form that works for aluminium is water soluble form silicic acid found naturally in water

                            +10mg sicilic acid might be associated with lower incidence of alzheimers going by a review
                            & (water soluble form)
                            https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0140673693923019

                            going by intervention studies fiji water has enough for an effect on 500ml a day ~45mg.
                            volvic mineral water should have just enough in 1L at 32mg
                            (similar to spritzer at 35mg/L)

                            https://vaccinepapers.org/wp-conten...Aluminum-Hypothesis-in-Alzheimers-Disease.pdf

                            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5832610/

                            apparently fish in water with high concentration of sicilic acid have low aluminium in their bodies

                            "world," as a source of new perceptions
                            more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                            "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                              A Former User @cs3000
                              last edited by Apr 4, 2024, 2:06 PM

                              @cs3000

                              but the bamboo plant is a living thing so the silica in it must be water soluble no? because it needs to move the mineral around inside the body system?

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                                cs3000 @A Former User
                                last edited by cs3000 Apr 4, 2024, 2:27 PM Apr 4, 2024, 2:26 PM

                                @questforhealth yeh tho i think the bamboo takes up water soluble silicic acid then processes it into silicon dioxide then that form is sold as silica (instead of the silicic acid needed which u can get from some mineral waters)

                                "world," as a source of new perceptions
                                more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                                "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                                  A Former User @cs3000
                                  last edited by Apr 4, 2024, 2:27 PM

                                  @cs3000

                                  ahhhh that makes sense

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                                    cs3000 @cs3000
                                    last edited by cs3000 Apr 4, 2024, 5:49 PM Apr 4, 2024, 5:38 PM

                                    @cs3000 https://bioenergetic.forum/post/16234

                                    That study for -62% reduction was 3 weeks , 5g apple pectin powder x2 daily with food and 15% of that as pectin, so 0.75g apple pectin x2 daily in children. no age/bodyweight given maybe 2x - 4x dose for adults
                                    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8900434_Reducing_the_137Cs-load_in_the_organism_of_Chernobyl_children_with_apple-pectin
                                    impressive for something natty & such a low amount

                                    "world," as a source of new perceptions
                                    more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                                    "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                                      A Former User @cs3000
                                      last edited by A Former User Apr 4, 2024, 5:56 PM Apr 4, 2024, 5:54 PM

                                      @cs3000

                                      Hey this seems pretty awesome

                                      Does this mean I can buy jars of apple sauce and eat them and it can help me out too?

                                      I do believe in citrus pectin though. Very powerful product.

                                      when you think about how bad heavy metals mess you up the modified stuff is well worth the price. What is £100 for a lifetime of peace?

                                      Makes me wonder if this is why old people like eating marmalade so much

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                                        Mauritio
                                        last edited by Apr 4, 2024, 8:03 PM

                                        Hey, great to see you back (here)!

                                        @cs3000 said in The relationship between Candida infections and heavy metal toxicity:

                                        normal apple pectin also works

                                        do you know the MoA ? Eventhough they have a similar name ,apple pectin and MCP are quite different, in the sense that MCP is absorbed and pectin is not.

                                        Interesting on silicic acid.
                                        Gerolsteiner has about 50mg per liter and I drink about 1.5l of that per day so should be getting a decent dose from it.

                                        Dare to think.

                                        My X:
                                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                          Mauritio
                                          last edited by Apr 4, 2024, 8:05 PM

                                          Is that the same silica from supplements that we are trying to avoid?

                                          Dare to think.

                                          My X:
                                          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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