New "Mission" of RPF
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@jjk_learning said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I suppose the board will be able to handle it however they feel appropriate but I disagree strongly with the idea of going after someone's license over dietary disagreements such as this.
Yes, they will. That's the point. To ask structured questions that require structured responses. On record.
The issue is a bit more nuanced than "dietary disagreements". But you're entitled to indignation at the thought of it.
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@ThinPicking In what way is it more nuanced?
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Other sources of cognition are available.
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@jjk_learning said in New "Mission" of RPF:
I read that post but don't really understand the basis of the complaint. That Smith is endangering children? It reads to me like a personal attempt to destroy Smith's livelihood.
This same logic from that post could be used to go after someone who promotes discarding "essential fatty acid" PUFAs or anything else.
I suppose the board will be able to handle it however they feel appropriate but I disagree strongly with the idea of going after someone's license over dietary disagreements such as this.
Iirc it’s that Smith has “prescribed” low Vitamin A to children.
Developing…
children….Do you have children?
I do
And if that’s true of him
It’s probably not a bad idea for him to back off therehttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7832048/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S221339842030083X
Reprobates gonna reprobate
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@jjk_learning said in New "Mission" of RPF:
It reads to me like a personal attempt to destroy Smith's livelihood.
I have no horse in this race, but that's exactly what that is lol.
All because of forum's change in direction.
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It’s not a horse race so that’s understandable, me neither. But I’m not seeing any thought at all here.
A licensed physician has a livelihood before they may appear to sharply deviate from standards of conduct, may appear to commercialise that deviation and may appear to silence debate while continuing to stand under credentials wrapped in a PLLC. Many in the going public could probably use a hand making sense of something like that before they consider making drastic alterations to their dietary behaviour. Particularly on the tail end of a (metaphorical) Westworld on the internet. I wouldn’t know though, because I’m not making claims, conducting an investigation and bringing suit. Just musing.
A case like this is probably just an example in a much bigger conversation. Without anyone alluding to etiquette and dishonour of diseased on social media. What could be wrong with a formal chat if nothing’s wrong.
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somebody doesn’t complain and Smith gets a notification to appear before the Medical Examiners Board.
They vet the complaint or complaints.
There is an “investigation” prior to this process.
Therefore (and im speculating here because I know nothing about said case) this licensing agency or medical board - THEY have deemed there is something to look into.This isn’t about Booboo on the RPF got his feelings hurt
This is the Board determining if anything needs addressing.
And if it’s about protecting children- I support it. -
@Jaffe Agreed. Tattling on a man whose personality and dietary strategy they don't like to try to destroy his livelihood. Because an internet forum changed course to promote that dietary strategy.
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Your frame of mind does not appear conducive to learning jjk.
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Someone possibly losing their pretentious title of doctor for whatever reason isn't something to spend much time on. The ND quacks are as bad as the MD quacks.
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@Hando-Jin said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Someone possibly losing their pretentious title of doctor for whatever reason isn't something to spend much time on.
Agreed.
@Hando-Jin said in New "Mission" of RPF:
The ND quacks are as bad as the MD quacks.
Agreed.
But if there's a road to bring Dr Peat's rightful inquiry about the necessity or order of licensing, hierarchy and profession to the fore. It probably involves a stepping stone or two.
Medicine should probably be closer to home than it is. But where's home. Exactly.
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@ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Medicine should probably be closer to home than it is.
Agreed.
@ThinPicking said in New "Mission" of RPF:
But where's home. Exactly.
The heart. IME, medicine is better insourced than outsourced.
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A Jennifer... Wild horses? (A reference to a quotation that landed.)
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@Peatful said in New "Mission" of RPF:
somebody doesn’t complain and Smith gets a notification to appear before the Medical Examiners Board.
They vet the complaint or complaints.
There is an “investigation” prior to this process.
Therefore (and im speculating here because I know nothing about said case) this licensing agency or medical board - THEY have deemed there is something to look into.This isn’t about Booboo on the RPF got his feelings hurt
This is the Board determining if anything needs addressing.
And if it’s about protecting children- I support it.Lol since when do we trust the Board to make a just decision?
I watched Dr. Paul Thomas in real time get his license suspended, lose his practice, and ultimately forced into retirement by the Board over his vaccine beliefs. Something we all align with. He wasn’t even anti-vaccine. Didn’t matter. The Board made his life hell. It’s all documented on his YouTube channel.
We all know Board investigations are just making sure you’re inline with their status quo.
Sending complaints of Garret to the Board has nothing to do with patient safety concern, but some vendetta stemming from the RPF drama earlier in the year.
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Yes
Healthcare / the medical industrial complex is generally a cesspool of thought and action
I know first hand- it is the sector in which I workSmith and RPF aside-
Parents need to be encouraged to nourish- not restrict
I don’t care if it’s keto, low vitamin A, vegan
These are not good for childrenNot sure why one would support someone who is misguiding clients through pushing supplements and a subscription service of baseless science
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I would think that Smith appearing before the medical examiners board would be using the process as intended.
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@Jaffe said in New "Mission" of RPF:
Lol since when do we trust the Board to make a just decision?
I watched Dr. Paul Thomas in real time get his license suspended, lose his practice, and ultimately forced into retirement by the Board over his vaccine beliefs. Something we all align with. He wasn’t even anti-vaccine. Didn’t matter. The Board made his life hell. It’s all documented on his YouTube channel.
We all know Board investigations are just making sure you’re inline with their status quo.
Sending complaints of Garret to the Board has nothing to do with patient safety concern, but some vendetta stemming from the RPF drama earlier in the year.
Your attempt to conflate the Arizona Naturopathic Physicians Medical Board with the Oregon Medical Board in different contexts is spurious at best. "The board" will apply due process and reveal its own faults on record. Which is one of the reasons "mainstream" medicine is in a state of utter disarray right now.
The specifics in process are a democratic issue. And "certified" "professionals" bear some responsibility to shape or dismantle it in both directions for their proximity to institutions. Whether they like it or not. Whether they're engaged in conversation or being made an example.
As do you. And I (different country, similar paradigm). Even if your metabolic rate is too low to think it through in context. Assuming there aren't other reasons you're being obtuse.
Have a great day Jaffe.
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@Peatful I think the solution there is for the parents to stop following the dictates of authority figures and fad trends rather than haul Dr Dipshit before the board.
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America will probably be needing another temporary Elysium to deal with the consequences of this notion. A "Metaverse" is unlikely to cut the mustard.
It is of course entirely possible I'm simply missing Shaolin wisdom. I certainly wouldn't mess with a practitioner of such things.
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Idealistically, of course
Again, this is my corner of the world,
and realistically, we need principled and “egoless” practitioners
Among many other things….This is one of the primary reasons I paid attention to Peat
Compare these men…