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    • HimmlerH
      Himmler @anabology
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      @anabology “peat didn’t talk about it so it didn’t matter” fucking gorilla nigger brain

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      • ahA
        ah @anabology
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        @anabology if that's accurate, I suspect that since glyphosate is directly estrogenic, increased estrogen signalling over time would downregulate aromatase, all the while overall estrogenic effects are still higher than baseline

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        • PUFADestroyerPPOP
          PUFADestroyerPPO @brad
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          @brad Based Brad, opposing evil Monsanto.

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          • FructoseF
            Fructose @brad
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            @brad said in Glyphosate doesn't matter:

            Według monografii IARC glifosat jest prawdopodobnym czynnikiem rakotwórczym .

            the evidence for this is inconclusive. It's hard to say whether this is actually true. Other institutions have denied that glyphosate is highly carcinogenic.

            @brad said in Glyphosate doesn't matter:

            Glifosat może zastąpić glicynę i przyczynić się do niewydolności nerek .

            the article discusses the synergistic effect of the substance on renal failure. The importance of FLUORINE, HEAVY METALS AND DEHYDRATION was also emphasized. The article itself raises the issue of people working in agriculture. I don't think this has anything to do with the average consumer.

            The importance of glyphosate in the pathophysiology of kidney disease requires better research.

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            • W
              wazvvy @iPeat
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              @iPeat said in Glyphosate doesn't matter:

              Stephanie Seneff, the most knowledgeable person I've ever seen on glyphosate, theorizes that glyphosate can get mistakenly placed in the glycine position in peptides in the body. Doing so in just the right spot, would only take a handful of glyphosate molecules to wreak havoc. Glyphosate to her is what PUFA was to Peat. She has me convinced, at least.

              She convinced me as well. I make sure to get as much glycine as possible throughout the day.

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              • skylarkS
                skylark
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                What a weird post. Ray has said himself that glyphosate causes genetic, mitochondrial and nerve damage. Just because it's water soluble and leaves the body quickly doesn't mean it's not toxic and degrading to an organism. It will leave permanent changes to an organism, just like any powerful substance, and in the amounts used by the agricultural industry, it's completly ignorant to believe that it doesn't have a significantly negative effect on modern ecology and the biological quality of man.

                Good things are immeasurably costly

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                • CornelyanC
                  Cornelyan
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                  No glyphosate and microplastics are real issues in the sense Peat often mentioned the omnipresence of stressors and especially endocrine disruptors and the fact it runs your glycine stores dry and could lead to degenerative diseases

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                  • bradB
                    brad @Fructose
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                    @Fructose FYI your quotes are in Polish while I was typing in English. Interesting localization logic on the forum.

                    I agree that neither of those studies are conclusive on their own. If you listen to the Brent Wisner closing statement he does a more thorough review of the literature where there's adequate evidence to support genotoxicity, renotoxicity, and carcinogenicity. And he shows that the initial approval of glyphosate/Roundup was a sham.

                    Since there's no way to avoid it when in use as it becomes a ubiquitous environmental contaminant, I think following the precautionary principle and banning it outright would be the most healthful and environmentally sound option.

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                    • FructoseF
                      Fructose @brad
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                      @brad said in Glyphosate doesn't matter:

                      @Fructose FYI your quotes are in Polish while I was typing in English. Interesting localization logic on the forum.

                      I agree that neither of those studies are conclusive on their own. If you listen to the Brent Wisner closing statement he does a more thorough review of the literature where there's adequate evidence to support genotoxicity, renotoxicity, and carcinogenicity. And he shows that the initial approval of glyphosate/Roundup was a sham.

                      Since there's no way to avoid it when in use as it becomes a ubiquitous environmental contaminant, I think following the precautionary principle and banning it outright would be the most healthful and environmentally sound option.

                      What do you mean by "Interesting localization logic"?

                      That's right, I come from Poland.

                      Indeed, I need to dig deeper into Brent's views/statement. Thanks.

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                      • bradB
                        brad @Fructose
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                        @Fructose
                        Here's what I saw:
                        Screenshot 2024-01-30 at 10.56.07 AM.png

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                        • FructoseF
                          Fructose @brad
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                          @brad said in Glyphosate doesn't matter:

                          @Fructose
                          Here's what I saw:
                          Screenshot 2024-01-30 at 10.56.07 AM.png

                          Sometimes, if I don't understand something, I use Google translate. That's why it's in Polish 👍

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                          • bradB
                            brad @Fructose
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                            @Fructose Oh okay that makes sense now. @LaneswapSlides mentioned at one point that the forum language was localized so I thought maybe it translated posts as well.

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