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    Ismail @Mauritio
    last edited by Jun 9, 2024, 5:28 PM

    @Mauritio I took this a few years ago after seeing the study, every time I took it, I felt a little stressed and quite aggressive.
    Got 10 boxes sitting in the fridge that have now expired - not sure if they’re even okay to take now or as “active”.

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      DavidPS
      last edited by DavidPS Jun 10, 2024, 6:55 PM Jun 10, 2024, 6:51 PM

      L. Reuteri is an interesting bacteria. I have been making yogurt with the patented L. reuteri 6475 strain since November 2023. There are two important diffeneces between fermenting milk with L. reuteri verses normal yogurt cultures. It boils down to time and temperature.

      Commerical yogurts are mass produced as quickly as possible. Afterall, time is $. I ferment my reuteri for 36 hours to increase its concentration.

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      With regard to temperature, reuteri is killed at the temperatures commonly used for commerical yogurts. (115 F). I ferment the yogurt at approximately body temperature.

      Makiing reuteri yogurt is the most cost effective way to to take high doses. I use some of the yogurt that I made as feedstock for my next batch.

      You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 👀
      ☂️

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        AinmBeo
        last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 6:55 PM

        If anyone here wants steps on how to make their Reuteri at home, in 36 hours with a Luvele yogurt maker (incredibly easy), let me know.
        This makes yogurt that has many, many more good bacteria per ounce than the Gaia tablets, although you start with the tablets.

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          Galaroc @AinmBeo
          last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 7:26 PM

          @AinmBeo

          I am highly interested in hearing about how you do this.

          @Mauritio

          I am familiar with this particular strain as I recall hearing Bronze Age Pervert speak about the Gastrus product as far back as 2022 or earlier, and he reports similar virilizing effects. Thank you for posting these studies, I had never seen anything on it quantified like this.

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            Mr. X @AinmBeo
            last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 7:54 PM

            @Mauritio can you recommend a product?

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              Sunniva @AinmBeo
              last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 8:01 PM

              @AinmBeo said in L. Reuteri:

              If anyone here wants steps on how to make their Reuteri at home, in 36 hours with a Luvele yogurt maker (incredibly easy), let me know.
              This makes yogurt that has many, many more good bacteria per ounce than the Gaia tablets, although you start with the tablets.

              Please post your procedure to make the yogurt. Thank you, 😊

              "You're changing your past every time you learn something because you become a different organism" Ray Peat

              "Everything is changing thru time, whether it's a word, organism, thing. The world around it changes, and so its relationships change"Ray Peat

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                AinmBeo
                last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 8:03 PM

                The info is all here:
                https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/what-helps-rosacea-and-where-can-i-find-it.52965/post-992722

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                  A Former User @AinmBeo
                  last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 8:34 PM

                  @AinmBeo I have been looking into making yogurt with L. Reuteri. Have you used these starter cultures https://www.luvele.com/products/l-reuteri-starter-culture-lr-superfood ? Looks better than buying the tablets. Also wondering if you find the Luvele worth the price? I usually just use a cooler with hot water to incubate yogurt for 24 hours or more.

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                    AinmBeo @A Former User
                    last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 9:02 PM

                    @Sippy
                    I had no luck with those.
                    Also, the Gaia Reuteri is the best strain out there.
                    Also, using the luvele to make the Gaia Reuteri is a time-tested method.
                    One strain, so no worries about not having the right temp.

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                      AinmBeo @A Former User
                      last edited by AinmBeo Jun 10, 2024, 9:06 PM Jun 10, 2024, 9:06 PM

                      @Sippy
                      The Luvele is defintely worth the price.
                      It takes me 5 minutes to start the yogurt.
                      Pour in milk.
                      Put in some crushed tablets (first time) or some existing reut. yogurt (all other times).
                      Put in some lactose powder.
                      Add water to the basin.
                      Plug in.
                      Set timer and temp.
                      Easy peasy.
                      36 hours later, done.
                      Strain for 24 hours in the fridge.
                      It takes time - and almost zero effort.

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                        LetTheRedeemed @AinmBeo
                        last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 9:45 PM

                        @AinmBeo could I just buy some from you? lol

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                          A Former User @AinmBeo
                          last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 3:44 PM

                          @AinmBeo Thanks for your reply.
                          Do you think the Luvelle would fit quart mason jars?
                          I see that you use lactose instead of inulin. Does this work better for you? Where do you get your lactose powder?

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                            AinmBeo @A Former User
                            last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 3:51 PM

                            @Sippy said in L. Reuteri:

                            Do you think the Luvelle would fit quart mason jars?
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                            The luvele comes with its own glass container, which holds 64 oz.
                            It also comes with a top, to keep the temp even.
                            A quart mason jar would probably not even fit.

                            I use lactose instead of inulin because Peat spoke against inulin, as inulin is fermentable in your lower gut. Lactose works fine.

                            -Where do you get your lactose powder?
                            amazon

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                              A Former User @AinmBeo
                              last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 4:28 PM

                              @AinmBeo why do you need more lactose if the milk has lactose already? and do you only use it in the first batch or in all batches?

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                                AinmBeo @A Former User
                                last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 4:31 PM

                                @Sippy The point of adding inulin or lactose is to make sure that the bacteria have enough fuel to multiply themselves a lot over the 36 hours.

                                I got my start on this at the Dr. Davis site.

                                If you want to see more on reuteri, go here and search for reuteri: https://innercircle.drdavisinfinitehealth.com/landing/category_search_landing.aspx

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                                  Sunniva @AinmBeo
                                  last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 4:38 PM

                                  @AinmBeo said in L. Reuteri:

                                  @Sippy The point of adding inulin or lactose is to make sure that the bacteria have enough fuel to multiply themselves a lot over the 36 hours.

                                  I got my start on this at the Dr. Davis site.

                                  If you want to see more on reuteri, go here and search for reuteri: https://innercircle.drdavisinfinitehealth.com/landing/category_search_landing.aspx

                                  How long have you been making the yogurt?
                                  Have you seen benefits that you would attribute to eating it?

                                  "You're changing your past every time you learn something because you become a different organism" Ray Peat

                                  "Everything is changing thru time, whether it's a word, organism, thing. The world around it changes, and so its relationships change"Ray Peat

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                                    AinmBeo @Sunniva
                                    last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 5:06 PM

                                    @Sunniva

                                    • How long have you been making the yogurt?
                                      About two years.
                                    • Have you seen benefits that you would attribute to eating it?
                                      It is hard to tell. I have made a lot of other changes in the last 2 years.
                                      If you start making it, make sure that you strain it, per the instructions.
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                                      Mauritio @Ismail
                                      last edited by Mauritio Jun 12, 2024, 8:45 PM Jun 12, 2024, 8:43 PM

                                      @Ismail said in L. Reuteri:

                                      @Mauritio I took this a few years ago after seeing the study, every time I took it, I felt a little stressed and quite aggressive.
                                      Got 10 boxes sitting in the fridge that have now expired - not sure if they’re even okay to take now or as “active”.

                                      Same, but it gets less with time. First two days I felt really wired and sleep was suboptimal and I went down to a fourth of a tablet, then it got better. I try to funnel the aggression into something useful. But it's definitely harder to relax.
                                      But you know, we got magnesium and glycine and other Gabaergics...

                                      Dare to think.

                                      My X:
                                      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                        Mauritio @Mr. X
                                        last edited by Jun 12, 2024, 8:44 PM

                                        @Mr-X said in L. Reuteri:

                                        @Mauritio can you recommend a product?

                                        I use the bio gaia gastrus from Kaufland.de

                                        Dare to think.

                                        My X:
                                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                          Ismail @Mauritio
                                          last edited by Jun 12, 2024, 11:28 PM

                                          @Mauritio good point bud; I didn’t know much about gabaergics all those years ago, might try this at some point again.

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