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    SummerPeach
    last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 10:27 AM

    Could anyone help me with these results? 42 year old female. Regular periods. I have been through an intensely stressful period over the past year due to the death of my sister and some other issues.
    Diet is Peatish however I fell off the wagon around the time of my Sister's death for several months.. results.JPG

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      SummerPeach
      last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 8:24 PM

      Does anyone know how I can raise prolactin? I am trying to get pregnant but these results are a mess.

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        A Former User @SummerPeach
        last edited by A Former User Jun 10, 2024, 10:39 PM Jun 10, 2024, 10:38 PM

        @SummerPeach

        I would switch your diet to include more animal fats instead of sugars, seems to work wonders for men and women’s fertility, but especially women’s. Use sugars at lower doses to keep stress low.

        Use butter, tallow, full fat raw dairy, raw egg yolks etc.

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          NotShanalotte @SummerPeach
          last edited by Jun 10, 2024, 10:52 PM

          @SummerPeach High prolactin prevents conception. One of my friends from an old job was able to conceive after using progesterone for months. She was told she would never, ever have kids. So as far as testing is concerned, without knowing its level it's hard to say. Too low, can't conceive, too high, blocks fertilization.

          My best guess from what test results you have is adrenal hormones smothering everything else. In any case, getting enough good food certainly won't hurt. Unless fat intake is already too high, RawGoatMilk88's advice is a good place to start.

          Specifically, fat keeps insulin spikes from happening when consuming carbs, and those insulin spikes can really mess with hormones.

          "Bear...Seek...Seek...Lest."

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            SummerPeach @A Former User
            last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 9:02 AM

            @RawGoatMilk88 Thank you. I will.

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              SummerPeach @A Former User
              last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 9:07 AM

              @NotShanalotte
              Thanks I agree with you about the adrenal hormones. I used to take a supplement called Seriphos for lowering cortisol. Have you heard of it? Last night I remembered that I had some so I took two capsules and I had a great night's sleep.

              Do my results show high or low prolactin? Because the results say low, but some people on the RP FB group were saying that it was high. My sex drive disappeared in the last year which is very unusual for me. I heard this is a sign of low prolactin.

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                cs3000 @SummerPeach
                last edited by cs3000 Jun 11, 2024, 9:44 AM Jun 11, 2024, 9:22 AM

                @SummerPeach hi an idea going by this, the high estrogen is supposed to increase prolactin, estrogen or androgens can reduce fsh for that to be low end, & androgens can block the prolactin increase by estrogen, maybe suggests you have high enough androgen signalling outweighing the estrogen https://academic.oup.com/biolreprod/article/40/6/1201/2763870

                androgens can help with getting pregnant though, directly , some level is essential ,
                https://joe.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/joe/222/3/R141.xml
                but if the balnce tips excessively high amounts become counter productive https://academic.oup.com/endo/article-abstract/95/3/722/2618745

                (so maybe needs balancing with some progesterone?, timed well though in the luteal phase of your cycle so its not acting as a contraceptive when youre trying to get pregnant, but gives support in preparing your uterus for pregnancy in the last 10 days of your cycle so the egg can implant and nourishes it

                if regular cycles: 7586b819-af60-4492-8363-f4a2085348cb-image.png

                (something extra peat said during pregnancy its a good idea to keep salt intake high to help keep nausea and pre-eclampsia at bay)

                "world," as a source of new perceptions
                more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                  SummerPeach @cs3000
                  last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 10:56 AM

                  @cs3000 Thank you! I did take progest-e at a very high dose but got terrible side effects like weight gain and massive amounts of bleeding between periods which scared me.
                  I read that Vit C increases progesterone. I am likely deficient in Vit C as I am a smoker. Do you think it'd be worth taking a C supp or increasing fruit with high C?

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                    Peatful
                    last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 12:18 PM

                    “Taking things” I found doesn’t change - a woman in your position-her metabolic or hormonal profile towards health
                    Ex: You saw this with progesterone first hand

                    Some may abate symptoms
                    But not true healing ime

                    Food and diet does.

                    Food is a powerful “chemical” messenger.

                    This is one reason Ray would speak of nutrient dense foods like oysters, liver etc
                    Or therapeutic foods such as the carrot salad

                    One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                    -DB

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                      NotShanalotte @SummerPeach
                      last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 2:51 PM

                      @SummerPeach said in Help with results:

                      Seriphos

                      I haven't but reading about it, it's not surprising since it has a bunch of serine. I tend to agree with Peatful about using good food as your first step. I made sure my wife was eating three meals a day and otherwise getting enough nutrition for several weeks, then when that wasn't wholly sufficient did I have her try a small amount of thyroid or progesterone.

                      "Bear...Seek...Seek...Lest."

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                        SummerPeach @Peatful
                        last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 5:23 PM

                        @Peatful said in Help with results:

                        “Taking things” I found doesn’t change - a woman in your position-her metabolic or hormonal profile towards health
                        Ex: You saw this with progesterone first hand

                        Some may abate symptoms
                        But not true healing ime

                        Food and diet does.

                        Food is a powerful “chemical” messenger.

                        This is one reason Ray would speak of nutrient dense foods like oysters, liver etc
                        Or therapeutic foods such as the carrot salad

                        Understood. Thanks. Back on track now. 🙂

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                          SummerPeach @NotShanalotte
                          last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 5:23 PM

                          @NotShanalotte Did your wife take progesterone occasionally or frequently?

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                            Kilgore
                            last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 5:57 PM

                            Take a look at this thread as well: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/1539/bioenergetic-guide-to-pregnancy?_=1718058969173

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                              NotShanalotte @SummerPeach
                              last edited by Jun 11, 2024, 6:02 PM

                              @SummerPeach She reacted the same as you until her calories/food were in order. Then she started with a popcorn kernel size for several weeks. At first she took it full time but stopped the week before she thought she'd have her period.

                              "Bear...Seek...Seek...Lest."

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                                cs3000 @SummerPeach
                                last edited by cs3000 Jun 14, 2024, 2:25 PM Jun 14, 2024, 1:48 PM

                                @SummerPeach
                                yeh i would 2 oranges or 1-2 cups OJ should help protect from the toxins in cigarettes to some extent, not sure how significant the effects are for hormones tho

                                another relevant thing http://haidut.me/?p=1905 (female smokers had 40% higher chance of quitting smoking during the week of high progesterone compared to any period throughout the study - "When a woman’s progesterone level was increasing from a low level, she smoked fewer cigarettes per day without even knowing it or trying to. But that effect on smoking behavior eventually levels off. When progesterone peaks in a woman’s cycle, it’s very high. The benefits plateau.” He noted that the biggest finding is that quitting success comes from the low to high increase"
                                & https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11420098/

                                so going from low to high progesterone helps quit smoking - so if are low then might benefit, but a supporting lift can be from just getting low milligrams extra & more isnt necessarily better (maybe pushed it too much, or didnt get along with the vit E? or maybe just didnt need it altogether), if arent low (or estrogen signalling already low) then might not benefit)

                                "world," as a source of new perceptions
                                more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                                "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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