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    Hando-Jin @Peatful
    last edited by Jun 3, 2024, 12:32 PM

    That he's still obsessed with 'Ray Peat followers' tell us plenty.

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      BioEclectic
      last edited by BioEclectic Jun 3, 2024, 4:06 PM Jun 3, 2024, 2:16 PM

      Imho one way to help Ray Peat's reputation survive this onslaught is to simply roll him into the greater bioenergetic movement, which he is a major part of. If his name is used in the outside world constantly it provides a vector for attack, whereas the phrase "bioenergetic" sounds more scientific and less fad-like, nebulous and difficult to criticize.

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        Regina @Hando-Jin
        last edited by Jun 3, 2024, 7:50 PM

        @Hando-Jin rflmao and pmp

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          risingfire
          last edited by Jun 4, 2024, 1:39 PM

          I read a very interesting quote on the ray peat forum in one of the most recent threads:

          "Here you go. Garrett Smith prefers sunflower oil , #ggenereux claims that coconut oil is no good because it delivers vit A all around your system and now biochemist Karen Hurd calls it coconut fad . Who would think...

          Mitochondria converts saturated fat into unsaturated fat through the beta oxidation cycle , 6 step process, within which you create free-radical damage , that is radical oxidative species which damage your DNA within cells . Now you know why you have aging , gray hair , cancer ...
          We alter our DNA because we have these free radicals because we had to turn bad fat (saturated) into a good fat (unsaturated)..."

          As far as I know, it's very rare for saturated fat to convert into unsaturated fats. I've only read one study where they needed technology to convert it.

          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1369703X23001559

          Does anyone with a better understanding of biochemistry know if it's common for this conversion?

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            bot-mod
            last edited by Jun 4, 2024, 11:47 PM

            https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peat-followers-seem-overly-defensive-when-vitamin-a-toxicity-is-mentioned.53053/post-994136

            @TheRealPeater

            I understand what you're saying, but...

            https://x.com/PeatPill/status/1795642939843969140

            The body seems to be very very good at storing enough for long term reduction or total absence. Consistent (to me) with highly variable supply in the absence of "civilisation". And probably because it's so important for us.

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              Verdad
              last edited by Jun 5, 2024, 1:00 AM

              Looks like the recent downtime has not stopped him from continued forum suicide.

              Still banning everyone under the sun. Anyone have any data on how much the traffic is down on the forum?

              I still have my old account but I'm afraid to post anything about any subject because it will either get overwhelmed with Anti-vitamin A detox garbage or it will offend his holiness @Charlie somehow.

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                revenant @risingfire
                last edited by Jun 5, 2024, 12:14 PM

                @risingfire said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                I read a very interesting quote on the ray peat forum in one of the most recent threads:

                "Here you go. Garrett Smith prefers sunflower oil , #ggenereux claims that coconut oil is no good because it delivers vit A all around your system and now biochemist Karen Hurd calls it coconut fad . Who would think...

                Mitochondria converts saturated fat into unsaturated fat through the beta oxidation cycle , 6 step process, within which you create free-radical damage , that is radical oxidative species which damage your DNA within cells . Now you know why you have aging , gray hair , cancer ...
                We alter our DNA because we have these free radicals because we had to turn bad fat (saturated) into a good fat (unsaturated)..."

                As far as I know, it's very rare for saturated fat to convert into unsaturated fats. I've only read one study where they needed technology to convert it.

                https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1369703X23001559

                Does anyone with a better understanding of biochemistry know if it's common for this conversion?

                The SCD1 enzyme converts saturated into monounsaturated fat.

                https://www.geneticlifehacks.com/scd1-a-lynchpin-of-metabolism/

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                  Peatful
                  last edited by Jun 19, 2024, 12:04 PM

                  Any updates on Smith’s medical board review?

                  Saw this today.
                  Made me laugh

                  Youtube Video

                  The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                  SD

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                    GreekDemiGod @Peatful
                    last edited by Jun 26, 2024, 9:04 PM

                    Seems like raypeatforum is making a comeback. Lots of active threads lately.

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                      Jaffe @GreekDemiGod
                      last edited by Jun 27, 2024, 12:18 AM

                      @GreekDemiGod

                      The Dr. Stephens stuff put the spotlight back on a lot of Ray Peat principles.

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                        Matt1951
                        last edited by Jun 27, 2024, 1:21 AM

                        "Case No, 24-251, regarding Dr. Smith, will be reviewed by the Board at the meeting of July 11, 2024. The meeting will be held virtually."
                        This is the latest. This is the second review of Dr. Smith.

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                          Hando-Jin @GreekDemiGod
                          last edited by Hando-Jin Jun 27, 2024, 7:30 AM Jun 27, 2024, 7:29 AM

                          @GreekDemiGod said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                          Seems like raypeatforum is making a comeback. Lots of active threads lately.

                          lol who cares? even if it went back to what it was, the damage is done and the asshole who owns it will just go through another cycle of mania at some point anyway

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                            A Former User
                            last edited by Jun 27, 2024, 12:11 PM

                            is charlie really just a man trying to make money in an illegitimate way... kind of upsetting but I guess it is what it is sometimes

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                              Peatful @A Former User
                              last edited by Jun 27, 2024, 12:27 PM

                              @questforhealth2 said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                              is charlie really just a man trying to make money in an illegitimate way... kind of upsetting but I guess it is what it is sometimes

                              You are referring to….?

                              Hijacking Peat’s work without acknowledgement (although using his name as the domain)
                              Or something else?

                              The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                              SD

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                                bot-mod @A Former User
                                last edited by Jun 27, 2024, 12:38 PM

                                Here, please.

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                                  A Former User @Peatful
                                  last edited by A Former User Jun 27, 2024, 5:53 PM Jun 27, 2024, 5:53 PM

                                  @Peatful

                                  oops. I was typing the post late at night and might have posted it by accident

                                  the rest of the post is probably gone from my head now..

                                  probably what you said though.

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                                    bot-mod @A Former User
                                    last edited by Jun 28, 2024, 5:59 PM

                                    @questforhealth2 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    trying to make money

                                    Is difficult when its velocity is directed or misdirected.

                                    @questforhealth2 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    an illegitimate way

                                    This is not a court of law. And entry into force of alteration to commercial law should probably be delayed after passing and not applied ex post facto.

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                                      bot-mod @bot-mod
                                      last edited by Jun 28, 2024, 6:01 PM

                                      q4h, if that does not make sense to you. You now have 14 days to read around and interpret it before you respond.

                                      Thank you.

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                                        A Former User
                                        last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 2:35 AM

                                        I don't think I will ever understand at this rate.

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                                          bot-mod @A Former User
                                          last edited by Jun 29, 2024, 11:41 AM

                                          You will. No rush, q4h3

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