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      evan.hinkle @S.Holmes
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      @S-Holmes hahahahaha, it actually took me a minute to realize that’s what you meant…

      I just tried, but I don’t know how to post a picture. I clicked on the icon for the picture, but all I got was some pre-fab html.

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        S.Holmes @evan.hinkle
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        @evan-hinkle Not sure if this is the issue, but when I share a photo it appears as text until I select the "post" arrow.

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          evan.hinkle @S.Holmes
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          @S-Holmes ![alt text](image url)

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            evan.hinkle @S.Holmes
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            @S-Holmes I would have expected it to allow me to select a picture from the folder on my computer. I don’t have a picture posted on the web, so unfortunately I don’t have a url.

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              S.Holmes @evan.hinkle
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              @evan-hinkle Oh well, I'm sure it's an amazing treehouse.

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                tubert @Peatful
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                @Peatful Could you please explain how you incorporated high quantities of sucrose into your diet? Thanks

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                  S.Holmes @S.Holmes
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                  @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                  @Peatful Could you expound on "rough"? I had a very strange burning pain from my neck to the bottom of my ribs yesterday (right side). I put an aspirin under my tongue and took a homeopathic remedy to treat stroke, just in case. It lasted about 15 minutes and then I was fine.

                  If not for Dr.Peat I wouldn't have given the sucrose protocol a second look. I think he saved my life, but I still have lingering issues, and weight gain which is difficult because I was very thin my entire life. So I'm willing to try anything to feel better. I've been on Nathan Hatch's protocol for a few months, and it was helpful but still didn't quite get me "there." (I still use some of the things he suggests.)

                  Apologies...I meant glucose protocol, not sucrose.

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                    Peatful @tubert
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                    @tubert said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                    @Peatful Could you please explain how you incorporated high quantities of sucrose into your diet? Thanks

                    Hey there, this is voice recognition.

                    I would love to help out
                    But context is so important around any health data in my opinion

                    So rather than me, spitting out a bunch of information
                    Do you wanna just tell me kind of where you’re at or what specifically are you looking to heal?

                    Dietary history here is paramount as well as just where your health lands today

                    One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                    -DB

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                      Peatful @S.Holmes
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                      @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                      @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                      @Peatful Could you expound on "rough"? I had a very strange burning pain from my neck to the bottom of my ribs yesterday (right side). I put an aspirin under my tongue and took a homeopathic remedy to treat stroke, just in case. It lasted about 15 minutes and then I was fine.

                      If not for Dr.Peat I wouldn't have given the sucrose protocol a second look. I think he saved my life, but I still have lingering issues, and weight gain which is difficult because I was very thin my entire life. So I'm willing to try anything to feel better. I've been on Nathan Hatch's protocol for a few months, and it was helpful but still didn't quite get me "there." (I still use some of the things he suggests.)

                      Apologies...I meant glucose protocol, not sucrose.

                      Hey
                      All sugars turn into glucose in our body
                      Lactose, dextrose, sucrose etc

                      Yes?

                      One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                      -DB

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                        S.Holmes @Peatful
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                        @Peatful The gist of the protocol is to skip all of the various conversions and provide glucose directly to the brain.

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                          Peatful @S.Holmes
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                          @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                          @Peatful The gist of the protocol is to skip all of the various conversions and provide glucose directly to the brain.

                          “Protocol”
                          Please note

                          There is nothing new under the sun

                          Although I haven’t read nor watched this guy
                          This is just “marketing”

                          The title of the thread is: Glucose loading cures everything?

                          All sugars turn into glucose
                          Nothing magical about dextrose as far as I understand Peat

                          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                          -DB

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                            S.Holmes @S.Holmes
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                            @S-Holmes I love that those little Smarties candies are made with 100% dextrose/glucose. 1 roll contains 6 or 7 grams of dextrose. Someone named them appropriately it seems. I bought some in bulk from Amazon. My little grandbabies are always getting bumps and bruises out here on our farm so Smarties (and Arnica montana) to the rescue! 😁

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                              Peatful @S.Holmes
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                              @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                              @S-Holmes I love that those little Smarties candies are made with 100% dextrose/glucose. 1 roll contains 6 or 7 grams of dextrose. Someone named them appropriately it seems. I bought some in bulk from Amazon. My little grandbabies are always getting bumps and bruises out here on our farm so Smarties (and Arnica montana) to the rescue! 😁

                              This is great
                              Load up and enjoy
                              Unless they are loaded with citric acid

                              For reference
                              Just in case

                              https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/manufactured-citric-acid-is-a-powerful-inflammatory-allergy-agent.41954/

                              One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                              -DB

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                                S.Holmes @S.Holmes
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                                @Peatful You'll need to go back and check out some of the links. There is definitely a difference.

                                Georgi posted a study, which I believe I shared the link to in this thread, about glucose being used therapeutically in ALS. Why do mostly athletes develop ALS? Traumatic brain injuries are the likely cause. But Dr. Stephens says even milder bumps on the head that aren't obviously concussive will cause irreversible (via normal healing mechanisms) glucose limiting effects on the brain. Pure dextrose seems to be healing these brain injuries.

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                                  Peatful @S.Holmes
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                                  @S-Holmes

                                  This?

                                  https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/high-sugar-diet-prolongs-survival-in-als-patients.3301/

                                  A high SUGAR diet
                                  And thar happens to be dextrose?

                                  It’s about sugar
                                  Not dextrose per say as far as I understand

                                  Experiment
                                  Have fun
                                  Enjoy the journey

                                  One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                  -DB

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                                    S.Holmes @Peatful
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                                    @Peatful

                                    "A 2019 study from the University of Arizona found that increasing GLUCOSE DELIVERY to motor neurons affected by amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) may help patients live longer and function better. ALS is a progressive neurodegenerative disease that causes increased metabolic activity, known as hypermetabolism. When ALS-affected neurons are given more GLUCOSE, they can convert it into energy to meet their abnormally high energy demands. This may help improve mobility and increase survival rates.
                                    Other research suggests that a higher GLUCOSE-based diet may also help slow ALS progression by preventing protein misfolding. Misfolded proteins can accumulate in the brains of ALS patients, which may contribute to disease progression."

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                                      Peatful @S.Holmes
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                                      @S-Holmes mm-hmm

                                      One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                      -DB

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                                        yerrag @Peatful
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                                        @Peatful

                                        I don't think sucrose turns into glucose. Half of sucrose is glucose. Half of it is fructose. Both are metabolized. There are other sugars out there like lactose. It is also metabolized. But there are some that aren't.

                                        Ray has spoken highly n earlier articles of fructose. In the way that it is more easily absorbed and metabolized. So clearly, it does not turn into glucose as you would say it does.

                                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                          S.Holmes @yerrag
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                                          @yerrag
                                          "Data from the present study show that ∼90% of dietary fructose is converted into glucose and other metabolites, such as lactate and glycerate, by the small intestine before it reaches the liver. Feb 23, 2018"

                                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6032988/

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                                            Peatful @yerrag
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                                            @yerrag said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                                            @Peatful

                                            I don't think sucrose turns into glucose. Half of sucrose is glucose. Half of it is fructose. Both are metabolized. There are other sugars out there like lactose. It is also metabolized. But there are some that aren't.

                                            Ray has spoken highly n earlier articles of fructose. In the way that it is more easily absorbed and metabolized. So clearly, it does not turn into glucose as you would say it does.

                                            Yes

                                            Im not talking about the processing

                                            Fructose differs in structure etc from lactose obviously
                                            Etc etc etc

                                            Im saying
                                            We drink fructose (once processed)
                                            “Oh. Glucose to our brain.”
                                            We drink lactose (once processed)
                                            “Oh. Glucose to our brain”

                                            But of course they have different properties
                                            They are two different “foods”

                                            Now
                                            This differs from starch vs sugar
                                            Although starchy carbs “turn to glucose”
                                            Very different

                                            One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                                            -DB

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