Your best country to live in?
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@deadkaczynski said in Your best country to live in?:
@Jennifer IF sunlight and length of day, access to fresh fruit, and general social stagnation aren’t mission critical, then I might agree. Also keep in mind that early industrial America did a real # on New England. PFAS laced raw milk, for example.
Sunlight was critical for me when I was sick so I supplemented during darker periods of the year with incandescent light but now that I’m thriving, I prefer less sun and cooler temps like I did as a child. When it comes to fresh fruit, I was on a fruit-based diet for two decades, and roughly 8 of them fruitarian, while living in New Hampshire, and my diet is currently abundant in fruit. I just posted this pic of my grocery haul for the week in Andrew’s Show Your Grocery Hauls thread:
Even grocery stores in a country as cold and dark as Iceland have fresh fruit, however, I would want to grow my own so I would do like others I know of and have a greenhouse powered by geothermal energy. My Dad has worked in the field of alternative energy for over 50 years and his biggest clients are in Iceland so…
Regarding industrialization’s impact on New England, I don’t know of any place in which I would realistically want to live that hasn’t been impacted by industry. There was a time while on a fruitarian diet that I call my fruitarian delusion where I, as a person in a first world country who had grown up with modern amenities, tried to convince myself that I could live in the jungles of Borneo, but in all my years of climbing and camping out in the mountains, I couldn’t even bring myself to poo in the woods so while I’m earthy, I’m not that earthy. I need a certain level of cleanliness, organization and modern conveniences to be my happiest so knowing that remediation and prevention of future contamination has been taking place—for example, since 2020 Massachusetts has had one of strictest limits on the amount of PFAS in public drinking water in the country and glyphosate use in this region is the lowest in the country—is good enough for me.
And regarding PFAS laced raw milk, this is just my n=1 but the studies I’ve seen indicate that exposure to PFAS is associated with thyroid and liver disorders and I overcame both, and a pretty devastating injury, on a diet of predominantly raw milk and yogurt (4+ liters daily) from farms in NH. And unlike the majority of other states and possibly other countries (?), the sale of raw milk not just at farms but also retail stores is legal here (NH) so I have no problem acquiring it. Less than 10 minutes from my house, I have an immaculate, 100% grass-based, biodynamic, certified A2/A2, calf-at-foot farm that has been owned by the same family for 300 years/9 generations, and numerous markets that sell raw dairy from another outstanding farm so between that, the climate, laid-back beach towns in close proximity to mountains for climbing, and the lowest crime rates in the country, NH and ME continue to be at the top of my list.
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@Androsclerozat said in Your best country to live in?:
@Jennifer said in Your best country to live in?:
I would be happy with any of the following countries:
• USA—specifically, the coastal towns of New Hampshire, Maine and the Carolinas
• Canada—specifically, the Atlantic provinces and British Columbia
• Iceland
• New ZealandYou like cold places I see, but aren't those places full of chemtrails?
Sorry, I’m not sure what you mean by chemtrails. Do you mean chemicals in the contrails that are formed when vapor and soot particles from burning jet fuel freeze? Since the ice crystals persist in higher humidity but dissipate in low humidity, is it a case of there being more contrails in wetter climates than drier ones, but the chemicals are still in the atmosphere even if we don’t see a trail? I’ve read that high humidity means that contrails can last for long periods and become thin layers of cirrus clouds found at such high altitudes that they’re unlikely to reach ground level.
In my recovery, I’m a soldier at war, I have broken down walls
I defined, I designed, my recovery
In the sound of the sea, in the oceans of me
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@Jennifer Jennifer, could you please elaborate on your 4+ liters daily milk diet to overcome liver and thyroid problems? For how long did you do that? No fruit eaten at the same time?
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I like it where I live. Central Washington State. Beautiful scenery and lakes. Lots of fruit and vegetables. We grow our own. Dry high desert but plenty of cheap water because of the Columbia river.
My power bill is never more than $40. Even running the A/C all day with 100 degree days. Also because all the rivers and dams, power doesn't have to travel far.
WA is not just Seattle which completely sucks, not even worth a visit anymore in my opinion.If I I would have to live cheaper I would probably go to elevation in Mexico or any other central/south american country. That way there will be lots of produce and moderate climate.
I'm from the Netherlands and wouldn't go back. But I also love it there, so that's a two edged sword.
I've also lived in Canada, Italy, and Israel. I certainly would never go back to live in Canada.
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@tubert said in Your best country to live in?:
@Jennifer Jennifer, could you please elaborate on your 4+ liters daily milk diet to overcome liver and thyroid problems? For how long did you do that? No fruit eaten at the same time?
Sure. Hopefully, no one minds me elaborating or else I can delete my post if they do.
I resolved my thyroid and liver/gallbladder disorders in less than a year, but continued with the diet for another 4 years because I enjoyed it, and just this past March reintroduced more fruit, became addicted to banana ice cream and flourless banana crêpes and my diet has been abundant in fruit ever since. I didn’t consume much fruit when my diet was dairy-based. Some periods I had none at all and the rest of the time only a minimal amount, mostly just some sukkari dates covered in white chocolate that I had with a cup of sweetened tea for snacks, and zucchini soup topped with scramble eggs and strained yogurt for meals—but I always had plenty of carbs from lactose, of course, and different varieties of honey, raw sugar and golden maple syrup that I consumed straight or had in yogurt, ice cream, milky coffee, hot white chocolate and tea. I also ate quite a bit of cheese, some eggs in the form of cheesy omelettes and homemade crustless quiche, and seafood (scallops, crab, tuna). I kept a log on the old Ray Peat Forum and posted some grocery hauls periodically and you can see that pretty much the same foods comprised the diet throughout, with some of the raw milk coming from goats (white jars) and some from Jersey and Guernsey cows (golden jars):
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There was an interesting thread on X recently and a "theory" was proposed that warm climates make people lazy and not willing to work and be motivated (think southern europeans, italians, turks, spanish..). And that the reason America has more economic power is the widespread use of AC. Colder temperature makes humans more motivated, more ambitious to get things done.
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Very interesting story. There's plenty of raw milk and other dairy available where I live. But it's always (as far as I've seen) full fat.
Is that what you bought?
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@happyhanneke, it’s full-fat dairy, yes. I started out removing the fat from the milk (with a turkey baster) and once I stopped experiencing gallbladder attacks, I left the fat in. I didn’t gain any weight, but aside from the last year or so that I was on the fruitarian diet and the year and an half I refed, my caloric intake has stayed fairly consistent throughout the years.
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@Jennifer thank you so much and sorry to the OP if the thread got temporarily derailed!
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@Androsclerozat I think those are the last of our concerns at this point. There are so many more toxic things in our environment that we actually have control over.
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My pleasure, @tubert.
@LetTheRedeemed, the top pic is crustless quiche (eggs, raw cream, honey, orange zest, onion powder, garlic powder, chives, parsley, cinnamon, nutmeg, pepper, salt and topped with slices of raw cheddar) and the bottom one is zucchini soup (peeled zucchini, coconut cream, honey, lime zest, onion powder, garlic powder, pepper, salt) topped with scrambled eggs and a mild yogurt strained until it’s as thick as quark/cream cheese.
In my recovery, I’m a soldier at war, I have broken down walls
I defined, I designed, my recovery
In the sound of the sea, in the oceans of me
I defined, I designed, my recovery ~ James Arthur -
@Jennifer ok nice. Thanks so much for sharing!
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@Jennifer said in Your best country to live in?:
@Androsclerozat said in Your best country to live in?:
@Jennifer said in Your best country to live in?:
I would be happy with any of the following countries:
• USA—specifically, the coastal towns of New Hampshire, Maine and the Carolinas
• Canada—specifically, the Atlantic provinces and British Columbia
• Iceland
• New ZealandYou like cold places I see, but aren't those places full of chemtrails?
Sorry, I’m not sure what you mean by chemtrails. Do you mean chemicals in the contrails that are formed when vapor and soot particles from burning jet fuel freeze? Since the ice crystals persist in higher humidity but dissipate in low humidity, is it a case of there being more contrails in wetter climates than drier ones, but the chemicals are still in the atmosphere even if we don’t see a trail? I’ve read that high humidity means that contrails can last for long periods and become thin layers of cirrus clouds found at such high altitudes that they’re unlikely to reach ground level.
Chemtrails are heavy metals thrown from a plane on purpose by the government to poison us. Others say that those block UV so we don't produce vitamin D. I noticed them more often on weekends. Now we enter a place of what people call it "conspiracies". You are free to believe what you want.
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@GreekDemiGod said in Your best country to live in?:
There was an interesting thread on X recently and a "theory" was proposed that warm climates make people lazy and not willing to work and be motivated (think southern europeans, italians, turks, spanish..). And that the reason America has more economic power is the widespread use of AC. Colder temperature makes humans more motivated, more ambitious to get things done.
AC is not widespread in Europe.This was a theory for a long time that I believed and I still do
I noticed people calling for issues at work more often during winter
Work seems easier when it's cold
But I believe it's stress driven work
No motivation in hot climates is because you are happy with yourself already and don't need to follow any man-made objectives -
You’re welcome, @LetTheRedeemed.
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@Androsclerozat said in Your best country to live in?:
@Jennifer said in Your best country to live in?:
@Androsclerozat said in Your best country to live in?:
@Jennifer said in Your best country to live in?:
I would be happy with any of the following countries:
• USA—specifically, the coastal towns of New Hampshire, Maine and the Carolinas
• Canada—specifically, the Atlantic provinces and British Columbia
• Iceland
• New ZealandYou like cold places I see, but aren't those places full of chemtrails?
Sorry, I’m not sure what you mean by chemtrails. Do you mean chemicals in the contrails that are formed when vapor and soot particles from burning jet fuel freeze? Since the ice crystals persist in higher humidity but dissipate in low humidity, is it a case of there being more contrails in wetter climates than drier ones, but the chemicals are still in the atmosphere even if we don’t see a trail? I’ve read that high humidity means that contrails can last for long periods and become thin layers of cirrus clouds found at such high altitudes that they’re unlikely to reach ground level.
Chemtrails are heavy metals thrown from a plane on purpose by the government to poison us. Others say that those block UV so we don't produce vitamin D. I noticed them more often on weekends. Now we enter a place of what people call it "conspiracies". You are free to believe what you want.
I see. Thank you for explaining. Do those who believe those theories say what the government does to avoid poisoning themselves and their loved ones or prevent themselves and their loved ones from ending up vitamin D deficient, while attempting to harm the rest of us? Or these theorists believe those in government don’t care if they harm themselves and their loved ones in the process? They are a strand in the web of life, after all.
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@Jennifer You should totally make a thread sharing all your recipes! They look and sound so good
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@Andrewㅤ seconded.
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Thank you, @Andrew and @LetTheRedeemed.
I’d be happy to start a recipe thread. Mine are really quite basic, though. I’m cooking two separate meals three times a day for two adults who have the palates of a toddler so they have to be simple and relatively quick to make. Plus, some of the staple meals I make my dad aren’t so Peaty like brioche French toast and pepperoni pizza. They’re made with only clean ingredients and low in PUFAs, but there’s wheat so…
