Whooping cough or 100-day cough treatments
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Family came back from europe and since then they have had this insane cough. Apparently its all over Europe now. I gave them vitamin D and they seem to be able to go to sleep atleast but other than that im not sure what could help. Any advice?
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I got rid of my whooping cough by taking a mucolytic and decongestant that rids the lungs of a persistent and thick mucus that's stuck and irritates because it won't come out. It can be otc preparations or it can be through breathing of vapor infused with essential oils such as spike lavender.
The irritation is persistent and makes the cough last longer and it becomes a whoop.
Another method is to use essential oil suppositories but this is more complicated.
Taking NAC also helps to loosen the phlegm making it easy to be coughed out.
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Diffusing the air with eucalyptus globular also helps by letting the vapor into the respiratory passages facilitating breathing by softening the passages.
Increasing the air moisture also helps.
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I have never had whooping cough but I would consider trying NAC and/or Guaifenesin, both are over the counter in the US. I recommend that you read the reviews on amazon.com or wherever you purchase your supplements before you purchase.
You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 👀
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@yerrag Went to the Doctor to get antibiotics prescribed for it but since she doesn't have a fever they won't give it to her atleast until it has been a month. Dumb system. From what I read that's what really helps
it can be through breathing of vapor infused with essential oils such as spike lavender.
I got one of these let's see how it works.
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@DavidPS Thank you! I bought some NAC.
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@Kilgore said in Whooping cough or 100-day cough treatments:
@yerrag Went to the Doctor to get antibiotics prescribed for it but since she doesn't have a fever they won't give it to her atleast until it has been a month. Dumb system. From what I read that's what really helps
it can be through breathing of vapor infused with essential oils such as spike lavender.
I got one of these let's see how it works.
I lost the pdf on the instructions when Google made a heist of my book collection off its 'venerable and reliable' Drive cloud service, but I remember about 3 drops of spike lavender is enough.
Use a steam inhaler like the one sold by Vicks.
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Gelatin, aspirin, cypro, niacinamide.
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NAC is great. I use it when my spring allergies clog my sinuses. But for me NAC is not an expectorant. I have found that Guaifenesin helps to break up the phlegm associated with the occasional chest cold.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. Another the other suggestions in the thread are interesting and worth a try.
Best wishes.
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@DavidPS solid inputs. have you ever experimented with glutathione precursors? I know NAC is basically a cysteine supplement, yet the rate limiting factor for glutathione production is the rarer dietary precursors like the B vitamins and glycine, and Ray has spoken negatively about cysteine in excess (aka the amounts needed will easily be met just by eating any non-gelatin protein source).
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@LetTheRedeemed I agree about Glycine. Or gelatin as well. Sulfur-rich foods as well, as sulfur is used in the sulfhydryl (SH) bonds in forming reduced glutathione (GSH). A higher GSH/GSSG (reduced/oxidized glutathione) makes mucus thinner and less viscous and has a mucolytic effect.
I'm not familiar with the role of B-vitamins here, but would be interested in knowing about it though, although there are many substances with indirect effects that are not inconsequential when deficient in.
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@Kilgore said in Whooping cough or 100-day cough treatments:
Went to the Doctor to get antibiotics prescribed for it but since she doesn't have a fever they won't give it to her atleast until it has been a month. Dumb system. From what I read that's what really helps
I learned from the aromatherapy book I read that before an antibacterial essential oil is used, EOs that are are mucolytics and expectorant are to be used first. As with mucus problem unresolved, new mucus from antibiotic or antibacterial treatment would still be blocking the lung passages. That may even worsen the blockage in the lungs.
Of course, if the phlegm is transparent, no antibiotics would be needed. Depending on the bent of the doctor, he may think it's viral or he may think there is no infection at all.
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Whooping cough or 100-day cough treatments:
@DavidPS solid inputs. have you ever experimented with glutathione precursors?
I am not purposefully trying to increase glutathione. Glycine and gelatine have many uses and I try to get more than ample amounts. Selenium is a cofactor in glutathione production (see and see) and I also try to get selenium from my diet to keep my immune system in good shape.
Stephanie Seneff wondered if a sulfur deficiency was the cause of many didiseases.
Could Sulfur Deficiency be a Contributing Factor in Obesity, Heart Disease, Alzheimer's
and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome?As I recall, Dr. Peat was against using MSM to get sulfur. Fortunately, sulfur can be obtained from many dietary sources.
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@DavidPS so I guess NAC is used primarily for it's antioxidant function.
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@yerrag Ray inspired me to use food alternatives to supplements, like providing precursors for glutathione production. B6 is a precursor for glutathione, found in liver
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Whooping cough or 100-day cough treatments:
@DavidPS so I guess NAC is used primarily for it's antioxidant function.
In the body, NAC converts to l-cysteine, a nonessential amino acid. The body then uses l-cysteine to make glutathione, which is a tripeptide or chain of amino acids composed ofTrusted Source cysteine, glycine, and glutamic acid.
Glutathione is an antioxidant with important functions in the body, such as making DNA, supporting the immune system, supporting the function of specific enzymes, helping certain organ functions, and more.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327219#vs-l-cysteine
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@DavidPS But first you said:
@DavidPS said in Whooping cough or 100-day cough treatments:
@LetTheRedeemed said in Whooping cough or 100-day cough treatments:
@DavidPS solid inputs. have you ever experimented with glutathione precursors?
I am not purposefully trying to increase glutathione.
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Whooping cough or 100-day cough treatments:
@yerrag Ray inspired me to use food alternatives to supplements, like providing precursors for glutathione production. B6 is a precursor for glutathione, found in liver
Thanks.
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@yerrag I forgot you asked which b vit, I found this source, otherwise I've only heard it second hand: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916523232463#:~:text=Vitamin B-6 as pyridoxal,rat liver and human plasma.
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Thanks. I got to read it. Am I getting it right though, as it seems to me the study is kinda inconclusive about the role of b6 in increasing glutathione?
