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    Bowel Movements: Sh*tmaxxing Strategies

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    • voldtzeigV
      voldtzeig
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      Did 2 carrots, 30g coconut oil and 500mg activated charcoal yesterday and had maybe 8-10 burning, watery and horrible bowel movements. Probably cleared most of the nasties out but would not recommend.

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        pillsbury
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        I have been tracking every sh*t I took in 2024 to attempt to quantify this.

        image here: https://i.imgur.com/Sp9WG0m.png

        first week: no peat
        weeks 2 and three: carrot salad, cyrpo, huge aspirin doses, and a lot of niccotine

        big change in frequency and quality, but also an increase in mucus/gas-induced mucus, which is concerning. overall, i think peaters are shitting too much, this can't be healthy

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          Skysnek @pillsbury
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          @pillsbury Incredible idea.

          I think it would be better complimented with additional information on diet, quality of stool (on the Bristol chart) and perhaps level of physical activity. I was traveling in December and despite a suboptimal diet, I walked a lot and that kept my bowels working.

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            pillsbury @Skysnek
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            @Skysnek i eat takeout most meals but no seed oils, normally some high protein bowl with vegetables and some carbs. extremely high stress job, lift three times a week, 30mg niccotine per day. bristol 4 or 5

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            • salicylicacid22S
              salicylicacid22 @Skysnek
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              @Skysnek
              Cigarettes, coffee avoiding grains and high dose magnesium does the job for me

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              • nateN
                nate @Skysnek
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                @Skysnek Magnesium (several forms), cascara, carrot salad, well cooked white button mushrooms, bamboo shoots, psyllium husk, carbonated water, aspirin, coffee, T3, sugar, B1, B3, potassium, vitamin C, vitamin K, pau d'arco, methylene blue, ginger, digestive bitters, rhubarb, senna, aloe vera, wheat bran is my general list of laxatives, along with an overall Peaty diet.

                I also talked about improving digestion here:
                Youtube Video

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                • maxM
                  max
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                  Big cascara fan

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                    Coriander
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                    I drink milk often in the morning and I notice it helps with ease of bowel movements. Other common things to improve bowels would be tea/soda/coffee (caffiene in general), orange-type fruit, saturated fat. The last item I note tends to solidify bowels into a more stable consistency.

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                    • FructoseF
                      Fructose @Skysnek
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                      @Skysnek 90/10 Liquid diet.

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                        djledda
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                        I shit like a king if I just avoid irritating my gut and eat a carrot every day. The salad is slightly more useful when SIBO-y. When things are really bad a carrot salad and 2-3g charcoal, spaced evenly throughout the day, keeps things clean enough to keep the bar high enough for irritation so that I don't easily grind everything to a halt with something benign like a little starch for dinner. When things are great a raw carrot a day is all I need to have 2-3 wonderful dumps.

                        When in an absolute pinch aspirin, coffee and a liquid diet for half a day or so work well. Drinking milk to "bowel tolerance" works probably like big doses of magnesium or vitamin C.

                        T3 is a given.

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                        • lucasmenemL
                          lucasmenem @Skysnek
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                          @Skysnek Walking 10,000 steps has been essential for me to stimulate daily evacuation, i would add it as another basic item

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                            djledda @lucasmenem
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                            @lucasmenem yes just moving around upright regularly helps a lot.

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                              charliebrown @lucasmenem
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                              @lucasmenem do you do this in one session or spread out

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                              • lucasmenemL
                                lucasmenem @charliebrown
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                                @charliebrown In a session, if you ask about compatibility with productivity, I say that it is excellent, because the best reasoning flourishes, even more so if at least part of it is done barefoot on living soil, and if the sun radiates your chest even more wonderful, the brain comes alive

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                                  charliebrown @lucasmenem
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                                  @lucasmenem I see, thanks

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                                    DairyMilk
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                                    I find that cellular dehydration is the limiting factor of feeling poopy

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                                    • rayjeetR
                                      rayjeet
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                                      I have had success with coffee. Also, taking gelatin dissolved in warm water with added salt always makes me shit. Carrot salad only works for me if eaten regularly. White button mushrooms calms my gut.

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                                      • NikN
                                        Nik
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                                        Psyllium husks are goated. Once you experience the ghost wipe (tp remains clean) it's hard to go back. 2 tablespoons seems to be the sweet spot but it's best to start with one and work your way up. Yet to see a peaty argument against them other than the fact that it's soluble fiber. Psyllium husks + carrots/mushrooms + good exercise routine = 1-3 easy bowel movements a day.

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                                          raypneat @Nik
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                                          @Nik psyillium husks are carcinogenic

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                                            raypneat @Nik
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                                            @Nik oat bran and even some of the semi-synthetic things, Metamucil, agar and psyllium, all have been identified as carcinogens for the intestine and possibly other organs and getting those out quickly before they support bacterial growth

                                            quoted from

                                            Ray Peat John Barkhausen Politics and Science: 1-02-01 Supression of Cancer interview

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