11-Keto-DHT
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11KDHT is a potent androgen with a high AR-agonist activity. I was curious of the safety of supplementing. Anyone have experience with the substance? Is it suppresive to natural production? Any possible side effects?
Some potential benefits include:
Anti-Cortisol - lower catabolism, lower stress,
Anti-Prolactin - lower anxiety, anti-depressive
Anti-Aromatase - lower Estrogen
Highly Androgenic - Dimorphism, masculinity, maybe anabolic (unlikely at the common dosages), lower inhibition, higher libido, more energy, Androgenic growth
Anti-Serotonin - Anti-Depressive, more T production -
its the active DHT in fish, the half life is longer, no problems i've heard of but good luck finding it
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@Ray-Van-Winkle Idealabs sells it. Its just not listed on the website
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@Serotoninskeptic
i recently started taking it about a week ago. Currently taking 4mgs in the morning.So far i really enjoy it.
Some effects i noticed so far:
- more vivid dreams (couldnt even remember that i was dreaming for the last 2 years)
- more assertive
- better mood
- a small improvement in libido
- more confidence
- increase in body temps ~0.3 C
havent noticed any negative effects so far
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@NokiaDrift Great thank you! I dont know many people who have tried it so this is quite imformative.
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@Serotoninskeptic
You're welcome! Today i have a lowkey headache but not sure if thats an effect of the Keto DHT. I also had a headache once after taking 4mg in the morning and 4mg in the evening. I will be taking a brake from it for the next 3 days so that my body doesnt rely on it too much.
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@NokiaDrift I think haidut recommended every 2-3 days because it has a much longer halflife than regular DHT. So you take any other hormones/supps with it?
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Noticed a more relaxed mood from 11-Keto-DHT, I have found the backdoor androgens including androsterone to be relaxing but 11-Keto-DHT 2 mg is relaxing in a way that Andro is not.
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@yeehawyinzer Thank you for the testimony. Did you take the DHT with anything else or no
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@Serotoninskeptic
I take 4 mg of 11-Keto DHT in the morning as well as 10g of Collagen, 1g Taurine and 5g Creatine.
In the evening i take about 6g of Glycine, 500mg Aspirin and Vitamin K.
Before starting the 11-Keto i did about 1 1/2 month with 2 Drops Androsterone in combination with 4 Drops Pansterone in the morning and evening.I've read in the thread of 11-Keto that Haidut recommends even higher doses than 4mg in the beginning depending on what the issue is that one is looking to resolve.
For me it's, depression, fatigue, lack of drive, ED, mood, sleep and gut problems.I will probably soon switch to a higher dose DHT Cream and combination with a T-Cream. I have a suspicion that my estrogen might be a bit too low from the androsterone.
One effect i'm still on the fence about is my libido. I used to be a heavy porn addict and while my mood and libido isn't great currently, abstaining from porn is so much easier since starting those compounds and in general my mood swings have stabilized a lot. I wonder if i can preserve this stoic version of me once my libido is back on full blast.
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Oh and i also dabble with some T3 as well which i havent felt much from.
I'm hoping that my Cytomel arrives soon so i can dose it easier and more regularly than the drops from idealabs. -
@NokiaDrift Doesnt DHT tank estrogen too? Maybe you should lay off both substances to see if your estrogen returns to nornal. Not sure though
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@Serotoninskeptic
Yea it does, thats why i think its a good idea to add test to the mix because some of it will convert to estrogen and that way my androgens and hormones are hopefully balanced out better -
@NokiaDrift Good call
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@Serotoninskeptic I regularly supplement cynomel, b vitamins, and Glycine/taurine/tyrosine
Have on hand Diamant, Pregnenolone, DHEA, progestE, 6-keto-P4, Androsterone maybe there are some good combinations that would work.
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@yeehawyinzer nice stack
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user pannacottas can help you with dht