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    • serotoninskepticS
      serotoninskeptic @NokiaDrift
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      @NokiaDrift I think haidut recommended every 2-3 days because it has a much longer halflife than regular DHT. So you take any other hormones/supps with it?

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        yeehawyinzer
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        Noticed a more relaxed mood from 11-Keto-DHT, I have found the backdoor androgens including androsterone to be relaxing but 11-Keto-DHT 2 mg is relaxing in a way that Andro is not.

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        • serotoninskepticS
          serotoninskeptic @yeehawyinzer
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          @yeehawyinzer Thank you for the testimony. Did you take the DHT with anything else or no

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            NokiaDrift @NokiaDrift
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            @Serotoninskeptic
            I take 4 mg of 11-Keto DHT in the morning as well as 10g of Collagen, 1g Taurine and 5g Creatine.
            In the evening i take about 6g of Glycine, 500mg Aspirin and Vitamin K.
            Before starting the 11-Keto i did about 1 1/2 month with 2 Drops Androsterone in combination with 4 Drops Pansterone in the morning and evening.

            I've read in the thread of 11-Keto that Haidut recommends even higher doses than 4mg in the beginning depending on what the issue is that one is looking to resolve.
            For me it's, depression, fatigue, lack of drive, ED, mood, sleep and gut problems.

            I will probably soon switch to a higher dose DHT Cream and combination with a T-Cream. I have a suspicion that my estrogen might be a bit too low from the androsterone.

            One effect i'm still on the fence about is my libido. I used to be a heavy porn addict and while my mood and libido isn't great currently, abstaining from porn is so much easier since starting those compounds and in general my mood swings have stabilized a lot. I wonder if i can preserve this stoic version of me once my libido is back on full blast.

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              NokiaDrift @NokiaDrift
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              Oh and i also dabble with some T3 as well which i havent felt much from.
              I'm hoping that my Cytomel arrives soon so i can dose it easier and more regularly than the drops from idealabs.

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              • serotoninskepticS
                serotoninskeptic @NokiaDrift
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                @NokiaDrift Doesnt DHT tank estrogen too? Maybe you should lay off both substances to see if your estrogen returns to nornal. Not sure though

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                  NokiaDrift @serotoninskeptic
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                  @Serotoninskeptic
                  Yea it does, thats why i think its a good idea to add test to the mix because some of it will convert to estrogen and that way my androgens and hormones are hopefully balanced out better

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                  • serotoninskepticS
                    serotoninskeptic @NokiaDrift
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                    @NokiaDrift Good call

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                      yeehawyinzer @serotoninskeptic
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                      @Serotoninskeptic I regularly supplement cynomel, b vitamins, and Glycine/taurine/tyrosine

                      Have on hand Diamant, Pregnenolone, DHEA, progestE, 6-keto-P4, Androsterone maybe there are some good combinations that would work.

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                        serotoninskeptic @yeehawyinzer
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                        @yeehawyinzer nice stack

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                          wester130
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                          user pannacottas can help you with dht

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