Unexplainable and Reoccurring Nuisance

[healthyfungus]

@LetTheRedeemed what are your symptoms, and how do you think you got the infection? Any side effects from the machine? I’ve considered it might be an infection but doesn’t really fit the case.

[healthyfungus]

@healthyfungus could it be some std?

[risingfire]

@healthyfungus don't think that's the case. And based on the symptoms you mentioned earlier I doubt you have high DHT and T

[healthyfungus]

@risingfire based on feeling ill for couple days every few weeks?

[healthyfungus]

@healthyfungus there’s def something going on there, not low t/dht otherwise I’d constantly feel like that.

[risingfire]

@healthyfungus I mixed up two different statements. My mistake. There is definitely something else going on. How's your gut health?

[healthyfungus]

@risingfire no symptom of any gut problems. Any ways to gauge gut health?

[risingfire]

@healthyfungus well formed bowel movements, no bloating, easy digestion and standard transit time(not too fast or too slow).

[healthyfungus]

@risingfire checks out for the most part.

Don’t think it’s gut or any organ health, hormones, thyroid, or immune.

Everything is well, one thing I do have is frequent urination. Might be a hint to something underlying. Weak bladder, sometimes it’s urgent but it’s not even much pee.

[risingfire]

@healthyfungus blood sugar?

[healthyfungus]

@risingfire I do go 10-12 hours fasting some days when I work. I’ll eat at 9am then at 7ish pm a big meal. Usually I do 3 meals 9am 3pm 8-9pm.

[LetTheRedeemed]

@healthyfungus said in Unexplainable and Reoccurring Nuisance:

@risingfire I do go 10-12 hours fasting some days when I work. I’ll eat at 9am then at 7ish pm a big meal. Usually I do 3 meals 9am 3pm 8-9pm.

stress hormones compromising prog/preg production.

to finally answer your old question, It may in fact not be an infection.

I have white tongue, when I eat bad food several days in a row, I get digestive issues/brain fog.
No side effects from the machine (it does dehydrate, so part of the protocol is drinking a lot).

[healthyfungus]

@LetTheRedeemed I’m familiar with the Ray Peat theology, but I don’t have any symptoms of high stress hormones, and this thing comes up when I’m not fasting or haven’t recently.

Your symptoms sound pretty normal symptoms everyone has; white tongue from not brushing it and bad digestion from bad food, neither of those would indicate an infection.

[LetTheRedeemed]

@healthyfungus actually, I didn't say I didn't brush my tongue. And, I get an extreme reaction from potatoes or bread that others don't get...

maybe you have a bacterial overgrowth you're overlooking because you think that's normal? I'll reopen the infection cold case files...

FYI the symptoms you gave are symptoms of stress hormones:

what triggers it aside from sweat/wet and cold wind exposure

I understand you said it's not always these things but it is enough to be noted. These things commonly use up available glucose with increased energy expenditure, aka drop in glucose and equivalent raising stress hormones.

Knots/achiness

Hypometabolism slows muscle repair

Puffier face

Estrogen

Softer boners

antagonized testosterone

Less energy

low thyroid

Headaches/nausea

elevated gut/brain serotonin

Frequent and urgent urination/weak bladder

poor liver metabolism/ low thyroid

Weaker voice

yelling at privates all day -- "GET UP SOLDIER" (jk)

Have you checked temps and pulse waking and mid day? then, have you checked them against a dose of t3?

[healthyfungus]

@LetTheRedeemed well you didn’t give much detail, from what you said sounds normal. If anyone eats bad food several days they won’t feel ideal, and white on tongue most people have every morning.

If you take each of those symptoms and label them as a symptom of stress hormones sure it’d no doubt work, but then if someone has the common cold and most of those symptoms because of it, you wouldn’t say it’s from stress hormones, it’s from the common cold.

Now say it is from stress hormones, then what would trigger them? How do I prevent them from occasionally giving me those symptoms?

I found no pattern in the occurrence. I can get great sleep, steel boners, great energy, great diet, plenty cals, solid training pump and cardio feels great, and out of nowhere I’ll wake up with some of the symptoms coming in.

Had it been a fast triggers it or certain food or activity then easily I’d avoid getting them.

[healthyfungus]

@LetTheRedeemed I haven’t tracked temps much. Did experiment with T3 and noticed nothing every time. If my thyroid is not ideal, nothing I can do that I’m not already doing.

[LucH]

@LetTheRedeemed said in Unexplainable and Reoccurring Nuisance:

I have white tongue, when I eat bad food several days in a row, I get digestive issues/brain fog.

1. Have you verified with this test?:
   Spit into a glass of water and see if there are any suspended filaments. So through the water, not just on the surface.
   To rule out suspicion of candida albicans.
   
2. To shut a door: Get informed on virus EBV.
   A review article published in the New England Journal of Medicine states that the EBV virus has managed to infect more than 90% of the human population. It is extremely common to find evidence of Epstein-Barr virus infection, given how easily it infects us, but its presence does not automatically mean it causes a particular illness. The EBV virus loves these following 3 situations: Heavy Metals present, hormones (adrenaline) and weakened immunity.
   *) Essential nutrients
   In order to promote natural immunity, our body needs to be properly supplied with essential nutrients, vitamins and minerals in particular. EFSA – the European Food Safety Authority – considers six vitamins (A, C, D, B6, B9 and B12) and four minerals (zinc, iron, and copper, selenium) to be essential for good immune health.
   *) Pamper the liver and thyroid in a second step
   Whether or not we “believe” in the dominance of the EBV virus, or whether we think that the liver – which is the chief foreman – when it fails, the failure or overload of the liver is the source of numerous pathologies.
   When the liver no longer carries out its hormonal and filtering work correctly, pathologies follow, depending on the weakness of the terrain encountered (variable for each individual).
   *) Before taking any action I would find out about the gentle way to relieve the work of the liver. The question of liver detoxification will arise. Gentle or quick method? You will need to find out about the release of toxins and how to manage the influx. Learn about the healing crisis (Herxheimer crisis). When to take a break, recharge with trace elements, how to vary so that the immune system does not miss the wrong target, etc.
   Note: I can give a link if you want to know much about this "theory". To explain the source and the evolution of the symptoms.

[risingfire]

@healthyfungus Do you feel stressed out when you don't eat for that long?

[healthyfungus]

@risingfire not at all, gives me some dopamine.

[AstralPMP]

Have you checked for mold in your basement or might there be mold somewhere in your apartment?

Do your symptoms subside whenever you sleep elsewhere?