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Does the beta-carotene in Broccoli outweigh the benefits of the high Vitamin K & C?

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    Pooooop
    last edited by Pooooop Oct 18, 2024, 3:27 AM Oct 18, 2024, 3:20 AM

    100 grams of Broccoli has 107% your vitamin C & 97% your vit K, yet less then 10% of your 'DV' of carotenoid & beta-carotenoid. Is it advisable for me to eat like 200 grams a day?

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      A Former User @Pooooop
      last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 5:12 AM

      @Pooooop

      I’d be much more concerned about the goitrogens down regulating your thyroid.

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        thyroidchor27
        last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 5:27 AM

        easily displaced by iodine

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          Gardner @Pooooop
          last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 1:12 PM

          @Pooooop
          I think carotenoids can be a problem when consumed in a form of supplements or if you are eating tons of greens.
          Broccoli is estrogenic, it is rich in secoisolariciresinol, a type of lignan phytoestrogen.

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            Pooooop @thyroidchor27
            last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 2:58 PM

            @thyroidchor27 Doesn't the goitrogens DISPLACE the iodine? And not the other way around? Or am I wrong?

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              Pooooop @Gardner
              last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 2:58 PM

              @Goodman Will 100-200g a day be highly estrogenic?

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                Pooooop @A Former User
                last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 2:59 PM

                @Prometheus88 How much goitrogens are in broccoli? Can I reverse them by taking something else?

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                  Gardner @Pooooop
                  last edited by Gardner Oct 18, 2024, 3:08 PM Oct 18, 2024, 3:06 PM

                  @Pooooop
                  that amount should be ok, once a week. Or divide it into smaller portions daily . Don't forget to thoroughly cook it.

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                    Pooooop @Gardner
                    last edited by Pooooop Oct 18, 2024, 3:19 PM Oct 18, 2024, 3:18 PM

                    @Goodman I steam it for like 20 minutes. Seems like raw broccoli has more goitrogens like thyanoxytes. Steaming it seems like a good idea.

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                      serotoninskeptic @Pooooop
                      last edited by serotoninskeptic Oct 18, 2024, 3:59 PM Oct 18, 2024, 3:59 PM

                      @Pooooop I think leafy greens and broths would be a better source for K1

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                        LucH @Pooooop
                        last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 4:01 PM

                        @Pooooop said in Does the beta-carotene in Broccoli outweigh the benefits of the high Vitamin K & C?:

                        Doesn't the goitrogens DISPLACE the iodine? And not the other way around? Or am I wrong?

                        You need selenium first, then iodine to protect the thyroid gland. It's a matter of quantity and frequency. Iodine from Kelp (titled) 150 - 250 mcg. I take Now Foods Kelp 150 mcg. Once a day at the beginning. 250-300 mg after 10-15 days.
                        Now, it's 2x or 3x a week, 150 mcg, depending on inflammation state or not.

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                          LucH @serotoninskeptic
                          last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 4:04 PM

                          @Serotoninskeptic said in Does the beta-carotene in Broccoli outweigh the benefits of the high Vitamin K & C?:

                          I think leafy greens and broths would be a better source for K1

                          Yes, indeed. Don't forget to eat some fat: 35 g optimal. Rather MUFA, at the beginning (1/2 black avocado, 8 macadamia nuts, 1 tbsp. olive oil). Assimilation is proportional: 14 - 24 - 35 gr fat.

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                            serotoninskeptic @LucH
                            last edited by serotoninskeptic Oct 18, 2024, 4:06 PM Oct 18, 2024, 4:06 PM

                            @LucH Is there a relationship between MUFA and K1 absorption?

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                              LucH @serotoninskeptic
                              last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 4:45 PM

                              @Serotoninskeptic said in Does the beta-carotene in Broccoli outweigh the benefits of the high Vitamin K & C?:

                              Is there a relationship between MUFA and K1 absorption?

                              I didn't read anything about the ratio, provided the liver functions well.
                              I can't explain why but I always try to take some SFA (coconut oil or butter) when I eat some MUFA and very few PUFA as possible at the breakfast.
                              Probably because of a false inverse process in my mind: We need SFA to neutralize / balance the fluidity of MUFA.
                              Shortly re-said: There shouldn't have any relationship but I do as if there were one.

                              METABOLISM
                              Vitamin K absorption requires intact pancreatic and biliary function and fat absorptive mechanisms. Dietary vitamin K is protein-bound and is liberated by the proteolytic action of pancreatic enzymes in the small intestine.

                              Bile salts then solubilize vitamin K into mixed micelles for absorption into enterocytes, where it is incorporated into chylomicrons,

                              thereby facilitating absorption into the intestinal lymphatics and portal circulation for transport to the liver [1]. In the liver it is repackaged into very low-density lipoprotein (VLDL). It circulates in small quantities bound to lipoprotein.

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                                dapose
                                last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 5:06 PM

                                Cooked broccoli is a good vehicle for butter and cheese and salt. I can’t imagine caring about nutritional quantities from a little brassica unless you know what kind of soil it’s growing in. If it ain’t in the earthworm poop it ain’t in the floret. 🧀🥦

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                                  A Former User @dapose
                                  last edited by Oct 18, 2024, 10:29 PM

                                  nigga just eat the broccolli

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                                    thyroidchor27 @Pooooop
                                    last edited by Oct 19, 2024, 4:17 AM

                                    @Pooooop they do both, broccoli doesnt have much and taking some extra iodine will easily displace any goitrogens that attacked the thyroid gland. Broccoli is an excellent source of selenium (organic form so google doesnt count it ), and decent enough source of k2.

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                                      Pooooop @LucH
                                      last edited by Oct 19, 2024, 5:35 AM

                                      @LucH I eat 1 tbsp coconut oil along with fats from milk & eggs

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                                        Pooooop @thyroidchor27
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                                          serotoninskeptic @LucH
                                          last edited by Oct 19, 2024, 2:51 PM

                                          @LucH Interesting thanks

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