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    When to take Cyproheptadine for sleep?

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      risingfire @mavuue
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      @mavuue start off with half a milli. The first day is always very difficult to wake up. It makes most sense to start on a day that's low key such as the weekend. I personally needed a ton of coffee to function in order to stay awake.

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        mavuue @risingfire
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        @risingfire I had no issue waking up, the problem was actually falling asleep. How long before sleep should I take 0.5mg?

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          onliest @mavuue
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          @mavuue I'd recommend taking 0.5mg right after sunset

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            DkJoe2 @mavuue
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            @mavuue you may find it's spiking your adrenals where it's dropping cortisol and you have no other hormones to fill the gap and it may not be a timing issue. Cypro typically saps the energy of people initially making it hard to get out of bed and focus. Maybe try taking it at the same time but eat a good portion of carbs/fat with it and see how you go?

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              onliest @DkJoe2
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              @DkJoe2 I concur with this. Have some ice cream. Only take 0.5mg 2-3 times a week. Preferably on days you are working out

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                risingfire @mavuue
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                @mavuue I'd wait until you feel your dopamine has recovered completely. Cypro seems reduce dopamine and serotonin

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                  serotoninskeptic @mavuue
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                  @mavuue Right before bed. It hits pretty fast

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                    Milk Destroyer @risingfire
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                    @risingfire I always thought cypro was actually agonistic of dopamine? At least, when you are eating enough good food alongside it.

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                      risingfire @Milk Destroyer
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                      @Milk-Destroyer all the literature I've read and personal experience has proved quite the opposite. I wonder if taking lisuride alongside cypro may negate those side effects

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                        Milk Destroyer @risingfire
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                        @risingfire If only lisuride was cheaply and easily available, as cypro is in a lot of countries.

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                          DkJoe2 @Milk Destroyer
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                          @Milk-Destroyer I may be wrong but I loosely remember it being something to do with Serotonin and Dopamine being conversely related but also staying within a certain range of each other?
                          So at higher doses Cypro drops Serotonin off a cliff which surges Dopamine to a point but if Serotonin falls too far Dopamine also reduces with it, dopamine should always remain higher though (providing there is adequate nutrition/rest of course otherwise it's adrenaline time).

                          Fyi good chance I have remembered/understood this wrong though.

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                            DkJoe2 @Milk Destroyer
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                            @Milk-Destroyer l-dopa or tyrosine with sunlight maybe?

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                              risingfire @DkJoe2
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                              @DkJoe2 +1

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                                Milk Destroyer @DkJoe2
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                                @DkJoe2 I wonder if exogenous l-dopa would convert instead to adrenaline though? And is tyrosine use safe, it being a standalone amino-acid? I suppose it'd be a matter of individual experimentation

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