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        @waterbottle are you a male or female?

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            @waterbottle What androgen exactly were you exposed to?

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                None of this happened from exposure to a single 1mg dose of anything.

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                    @waterbottle then why wouldn't you want more masculine features?

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                        @waterbottle One small dose of steroids most likely did not do that to you. Was probably from something else

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                              @waterbottle 1mg of any androgen one time would absolutely not cause any difference in muscle mass. did you increase your protein intake? Leucine can increase muscle protein synthesis

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                                @PrinceTrebata what else would it be because I want it!

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                                  @waterbottle

                                  My shoulders and muscles stood out and popped more when I was peak peaty then on roids so its totally natural and healthy. Its peak male to have very popping shoulders compared to your enviromental stimulus. Now that look you got wasnt from natty peatyness (if story true) but since we are talking about the look I mention.

                                  Here you can see picture of me peak peating before alot of stress:
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                                  My muscles pop alot less now and now I am not natty 60% of the time nowadays.

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                                    @Uncover the king is BACK.

                                    same. when I reached my Peaty heights prior to a sustained year long stressor event I've been in, I was eating half a gallon of icecream a day (almost 2 liters)... my shoulders were definitely wider, and people would say "you're working out!" which I hadn't done in a year or two.

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                                      @LetTheRedeemed Haha thanks for the nice welcome brother! Im suprised you recognised me. I have socialized with less peaty people recently so I am not as used to people remembering alot of prior conversations anymore haha

                                      Haha thats fire when they comment such things. The fooked up thing is that when I was natural people thought I was on roids and when I am not natty anymore I still get those allegations less faak. I can imagine people thought you lied when you said you didnt workout

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                                        LetTheRedeemed @Uncover
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                                        @Uncover I actually remember you and your bodybuilder pics from the old forum 😄

                                        I can imagine people thought you lied when you said you didnt workout

                                        Lol right? It’s crazy what an impact the hormones have on structure alone. Clearly bones don’t just grow and then shrink back that fast (yes muscles swell and that gives an impression); I believe that other than extreme cases of developmental retardation, the body is indeed making bones and tendons that are supposed to fit in an ideal frame, but that frame isn’t being “hung” correctly by connective tissues like fascia, due to stress hormone impacts. In these instances people are more prone to various joint injury. I forgot where Ray talked about it, but basically the tissues themselves are more resilient with high androgens, and weakened with stress hormones
 and it was true for me that, when not in a stressed state, chiropractic work was largely unnecessary.

                                        edit, more pertinent to my point, cortisol keeps muscles and tendons from relaxing -- they will also then not flex for full effect

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                                          Decades ago Peat was wary of the anti testosterone effects of about pea- to beansized amounts of progest-E, but I don't think this applies anymore, in todays super stressed hyperesteogenic world. I noticed large amounts having androgenic effects by lowering the ratio of estrogen to testosterone. Maybe with 150-200mg I was starting to get numbness in the penis for some hours.

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