Figuring out digestive issues
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@chosroes said in Figuring out digestive issues:
stupid things with androgens
What stupid things did you do with androgens if i may ask?
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@edouard Sure, about 8 years ago I bought DHT powder off the internet and used it transdermally for a few days. I didn't really measure the doses, and got myself into a bad situation, shrinkage, bodily changes and whatnot, scary stuff. Tried to use it again a few weeks afterward, with the same effect. Also had some similar thing with androsterone not long afterward.
While I likely applied more than reasonably sized doses, probably 10 to a few ten milligrams at a time, I really didn't think the effects would be so severe and long-lasting. Might've been made worse on account of where I applied the stuff.
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Okay, I think I'm starting to do what the thread title says. Summer was good, I started using a few drops of Energin daily (the new one with fat-soluble B1) and had a really good stretch of about 1,5 months, haven't felt that good in years. About a week ago, stomach stuff returned. I first noticed something bad happening the day after having had oxtail for both lunch and dinner. The next day, I topped it off with sushi, with a good helping of wasabi and ginger. Bam, not long until I was dizzy, cold extremities, unable to focus, with an uncomfortable feeling in my upper left abdomen.
With my newfound clearer head, and this experience, all signs seem to point toward some kind of gastritis or stomach ulcer as the root issue.
All this being said, I wasn't able to find too much on concrete stuff on gastritis or stomach ulcers on the old forum, at least no direct comments from Ray.
What has worked for you guys? Avoiding excess acidity and irritants, eating a bland diet for a while looks like a common approach, which I've been doing mostly anyway, with these small trial runs of trying more exotic stuff that sometimes end up stinging. Skipping coffee too, and trying to keep the nicotine use down for a while. I'm also dissolving honey in a little hot water at morning and night on an empty stomach, seems to do something. I sure hope the Energin isn't contributing here, cause I've been feeling great at about 4-5 drops, but I don't really have any reason to think it is.
What else. Could do the endoscopy or maybe an H pylori test, but I don't know whether there's much to be gained, at least not from the endoscopy. I won't be taking any PPI anytime soon.
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@chosroes Not here to help but this summer I started to experiment with PureBulk B1 HCL (along with Pure Encaps. B vits.). It was only 200-300mg/day and after a few days I had some bad gastritis. I don't know if it's linked with that though, because I also tried to incorporante some aspirin at the same time
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@chosroes How much protein do you average? I notice my digestion is much better when replacing some protein with honey/fruit. I keep warmer this way too. Maybe replace muscle meats with gelatin or try putting gelatin in your coffee.
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Do not take b1 if you do not feel any effect or bad effect. If you need b1 you will feel good after consumption in the hours after. This is true for all consumption. Do not eat foods which make you feel bad. Do you know what foods you do not tolerate? For example oxalates, histamine, meat, milk, egg.
Do you still have pain left side of the body? Maybe this is a clue: bad kidney health?
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@edouard Thanks for chiming in! Did your issues resolve? Back when my problems started many years ago, besides the hormones I was using, I'd also been going pretty hard with aspirin.
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@Serotoninskeptic I average about 125-175 g mostly ground beef or cod daily, and about 3 eggs, which according to Cronometer is about 60 g protein. Then from other foods I'd guess maybe 10 g on top of that. How much are you getting, that you're comfortable with?
I don't do much fruit at all, but eat steamed broccoli and usually spinach every day. Potatoes. Didn't drink milk for about 1.5 months, to see if it would help with the constipation.
I'm a little wary of gelatin, my last flare of symptoms actually started after eating oxtail, although it's always hard to say what is really going on.
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@foxgelb I've actually been feeling good after B1, or at least after Energin, whether that's the prosultiamine working or something else. This stretch of good mood for almost 2 months seems to be underwritten by Energin in big part. Yeah I'm eating pretty blandly, with safe stuff, and I've been recovering from the flare.
The uncomfortable feeling on the left side is starting to disappear.
And yeah, kidney does go with the symptoms I have, but then so does liver problems, which I'm thinking might be the core issue. Probably those can go together. When I feel my stomach acting up, my sweat usually smells like ammonia, and I will get dizzy, unable to focus. Cold hands & feet. Circadian rhythm changes, tired in the morning (and daytime) and less sleepy at night. A year or more ago, I'd come home and take naps, wake up feeling like a dead person at awkward times of the day. Even further back I'd have all that, and terrible dandruff and itchy skin. Serious fatigue, again with the dizziness and that. Even my personality is affected, I guess no brain can really have much fun when this stuff is going on. Nausea sometimes. Hepatic encephalopathy?All this is lessening over time, and the last 2 months have been great on all fronts. Then, with this flare, some of the things come back, it's like a small scab has been formed across the old symptoms and when the scab is peeled off for whatever reason, the symptoms come trickling back a little. Constipation tendency comes back a bit, stool even changed color, libido tanks. Apologize for the wall of text.
It's possible the current flare wasn't started by the oxtail, or takeout sushi - just prior to that, I'd accidentally eaten mashed potatoes, made with carrageenan-laced cream, two days straight. Bastards are planting landmines everywhere.
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Two more months have passed. Healing from the thing in September was very slow, until I realized cutting down on nicotine was a good idea. Now limiting nicotine to after eating.
Still not doing great, my body just doesn't seem to function very well. Trying to reintroduce things (like ketchup) made some symptoms come back, and then it's back to slow healing from that. At least now it's obvious that gastritis has been a problem all along.
Definitely not doing as great now in fall and winter, although B vitamins seem to keep me going somewhat. No appetite, losing weight, no libido, barely enough energy to keep up with I need to get done, let alone having any energy to enjoy my free time. Is chronic gastritis enough to explain most of this, I don't know. Feels a little bleak.
Considering trying an H2 blocker, just accepting being exposed to the excipients.
A good thing is eating soft bland food has practically gotten rid of the constipation problem. I had been eating carrot salads for a long time out of pure inertia but they were actually constipating.
Endoscopy coming up in a month.
