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    • InsomniacI
      Insomniac @Peatful
      last edited by Insomniac

      @Peatful said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

      Rebranded eugenics

      At least the UK bothers rebranding it. Some countries don't sugar coat the concept.

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        swamptunnels.jpg

        Amuse to life and make it go viral.

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          CrumblingCookie @Peatful
          last edited by CrumblingCookie

          @Peatful said:

          I will leave it to you as to why one should care

          It's sinister and my thoughts about it are ambiguous.

          @Peatful said:

          Rebranded eugenics

          In the bigger picture I am very certain that we are not amidst any eugenics programme.
          It's kakogenics. Or metriogenics to the lower end of such. You all know the playbooks.

          In this sense and the commercial setup of the world MAID is like the ultimate discarding after having caused great demise upon a human being and leeched off all its commercial securities.

          That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
          or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

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          • InsomniacI
            Insomniac @CrumblingCookie
            last edited by Insomniac

            @CrumblingCookie

            In the bigger picture I am very certain that we are not amidst any eugenics programme.

            Yes of course. It's a euthanasia program. Easy terms to mix up.

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            • InsomniacI
              Insomniac
              last edited by Insomniac

              @CrumblingCookie said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

              That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
              or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

              This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

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                Peatful @Insomniac
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                @Insomniac said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

                @CrumblingCookie said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

                That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
                or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

                This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

                I agree

                Read the data on how it is done
                What it looks like
                The cost

                Brutal and or cruel…

                Mercy.

                One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                -DB

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                  CrumblingCookie @Peatful
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                  @Insomniac said:

                  This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

                  I agree with you there. It remains ambiguous.

                  @Peatful said:

                  Read the data on how it is done
                  What it looks like
                  The cost

                  Brutal and or cruel…

                  I haven't looked into that tbh. Is it just "cold" or brutal in many more ways?
                  If it were me I certainly wouldn't want to have it in a specified medical setting. I had seen lots of possible ways in the early days of internet and would want to choose my own way and moment.

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                    Peatful @CrumblingCookie
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                    @CrumblingCookie

                    Im no expert

                    But
                    I would say cruel

                    It’s “suffocation” in many places where it is legal

                    Supposed to go fast
                    Supposed to…
                    And yet many have needlessly suffered
                    While family watched
                    Some wanting to reverse their decision

                    Barbaric

                    One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                    -DB

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                    • InsomniacI
                      Insomniac
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                      How more people will end up killing themselves by accident:
                      Youtube Video

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                        CrumblingCookie @Peatful
                        last edited by CrumblingCookie

                        @Peatful said:

                        It’s “suffocation” in many places where it is legal

                        Supposed to go fast
                        Supposed to…
                        And yet many have needlessly suffered
                        While family watched
                        Some wanting to reverse their decision

                        I feared it to be something along the line of ineffective executions of death penalty.

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                          Peatful
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                          Bill passed
                          Shocker

                          Key points about the recent vote:

                          Result: The bill passed with 330 votes in favor and 275 against.

                          Significance: This is considered a historic moment as it is the furthest any assisted dying bill has progressed in the UK Parliament.

                          Next steps: The bill will now go through further scrutiny and potential amendments in the House of Commons and then the House of Lords.

                          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                          -DB

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                          • LukeL
                            Luke
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                            Step 1: Terminally ill people should have the opportunity to end their suffering on a completely voluntary basis.
                            Step 2: See step 1, but terminally ill patients cost society a lot of money.
                            Step 3: Yes, we pay for your treatment, but there are easier ways to end your suffering.
                            Step 4: We don't pay for your treatment, but there is an alternative.
                            Step 5: Can you please finally kill yourself? You are a burden to society!
                            Step 6: We will kill you.

                            UK is now at step 1, Canada somewhere between 3 and 4. We'll see how far they go.

                            War is when a government tells the people who is the enemy. Revolution is when the people work it out for themselves.

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                              Lizb @Luke
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                              @Luke yep. The road to hell.

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