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      bot-mod @Peatful
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      Yes quite twisted in and out of context. There's even a totally grassroots (...) campaign group who bought up some ad space from TFL media 'partners'.

      Got some attention on the 'debate' and surrounding coverage. It's bringing certain types out of the woodwork that's for sure. Whatever will be, will be. It may only really become a problem if there's digital ID for info restriction implications. That would not be ok. At all. For now people are free to seek and find better ways to live on.

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        Peatful @Insomniac
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        @Insomniac said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

        @Peatful said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

        Not sure if anyone here gives a shit

        It's an important subject. It's clear where society is heading.

        Rebranded eugenics

        Hopefully people are awake to see it

        But
        Im doubtful

        One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

        -DB

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          Insomniac @Peatful
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          @Peatful said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

          Rebranded eugenics

          At least the UK bothers rebranding it. Some countries don't sugar coat the concept.

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            bot-mod
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            swamptunnels.jpg

            Amuse to life and make it go viral.

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              CrumblingCookie @Peatful
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              @Peatful said:

              I will leave it to you as to why one should care

              It's sinister and my thoughts about it are ambiguous.

              @Peatful said:

              Rebranded eugenics

              In the bigger picture I am very certain that we are not amidst any eugenics programme.
              It's kakogenics. Or metriogenics to the lower end of such. You all know the playbooks.

              In this sense and the commercial setup of the world MAID is like the ultimate discarding after having caused great demise upon a human being and leeched off all its commercial securities.

              That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
              or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

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                Insomniac @CrumblingCookie
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                @CrumblingCookie

                In the bigger picture I am very certain that we are not amidst any eugenics programme.

                Yes of course. It's a euthanasia program. Easy terms to mix up.

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                  Insomniac
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                  @CrumblingCookie said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

                  That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
                  or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

                  This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

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                    Peatful @Insomniac
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                    @Insomniac said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

                    @CrumblingCookie said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

                    That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
                    or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

                    This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

                    I agree

                    Read the data on how it is done
                    What it looks like
                    The cost

                    Brutal and or cruel…

                    Mercy.

                    One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                    -DB

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                      CrumblingCookie @Peatful
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                      @Insomniac said:

                      This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

                      I agree with you there. It remains ambiguous.

                      @Peatful said:

                      Read the data on how it is done
                      What it looks like
                      The cost

                      Brutal and or cruel…

                      I haven't looked into that tbh. Is it just "cold" or brutal in many more ways?
                      If it were me I certainly wouldn't want to have it in a specified medical setting. I had seen lots of possible ways in the early days of internet and would want to choose my own way and moment.

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                        Peatful @CrumblingCookie
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                        @CrumblingCookie

                        Im no expert

                        But
                        I would say cruel

                        It’s “suffocation” in many places where it is legal

                        Supposed to go fast
                        Supposed to…
                        And yet many have needlessly suffered
                        While family watched
                        Some wanting to reverse their decision

                        Barbaric

                        One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                        -DB

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                          Insomniac
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                          How more people will end up killing themselves by accident:
                          Youtube Video

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                            CrumblingCookie @Peatful
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                            @Peatful said:

                            It’s “suffocation” in many places where it is legal

                            Supposed to go fast
                            Supposed to…
                            And yet many have needlessly suffered
                            While family watched
                            Some wanting to reverse their decision

                            I feared it to be something along the line of ineffective executions of death penalty.

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                              Peatful
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                              Bill passed
                              Shocker

                              Key points about the recent vote:

                              Result: The bill passed with 330 votes in favor and 275 against.

                              Significance: This is considered a historic moment as it is the furthest any assisted dying bill has progressed in the UK Parliament.

                              Next steps: The bill will now go through further scrutiny and potential amendments in the House of Commons and then the House of Lords.

                              One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                              -DB

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                                Luke
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                                Step 1: Terminally ill people should have the opportunity to end their suffering on a completely voluntary basis.
                                Step 2: See step 1, but terminally ill patients cost society a lot of money.
                                Step 3: Yes, we pay for your treatment, but there are easier ways to end your suffering.
                                Step 4: We don't pay for your treatment, but there is an alternative.
                                Step 5: Can you please finally kill yourself? You are a burden to society!
                                Step 6: We will kill you.

                                UK is now at step 1, Canada somewhere between 3 and 4. We'll see how far they go.

                                War is when a government tells the people who is the enemy. Revolution is when the people work it out for themselves.

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                                  Lizb @Luke
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                                  @Luke yep. The road to hell.

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