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      CrumblingCookie @Peatful
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      @Peatful said:

      I will leave it to you as to why one should care

      It's sinister and my thoughts about it are ambiguous.

      @Peatful said:

      Rebranded eugenics

      In the bigger picture I am very certain that we are not amidst any eugenics programme.
      It's kakogenics. Or metriogenics to the lower end of such. You all know the playbooks.

      In this sense and the commercial setup of the world MAID is like the ultimate discarding after having caused great demise upon a human being and leeched off all its commercial securities.

      That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
      or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

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        Insomniac @CrumblingCookie
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        @CrumblingCookie

        In the bigger picture I am very certain that we are not amidst any eugenics programme.

        Yes of course. It's a euthanasia program. Easy terms to mix up.

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          Insomniac
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          @CrumblingCookie said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

          That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
          or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

          This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

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            Peatful @Insomniac
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            @Insomniac said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

            @CrumblingCookie said in Medical Assistance In Dying. MAID:

            That said, to those who find themselves at the irreversible end of such willful malice,
            or to those who find themselves at the end of otherwise greatly unfortunate fates...

            This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

            I agree

            Read the data on how it is done
            What it looks like
            The cost

            Brutal and or cruel…

            Mercy.

            One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

            -DB

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              CrumblingCookie @Peatful
              last edited by CrumblingCookie

              @Insomniac said:

              This narrative is very useful for framing support for widespread euthanasia as loving and compassionate.

              I agree with you there. It remains ambiguous.

              @Peatful said:

              Read the data on how it is done
              What it looks like
              The cost

              Brutal and or cruel…

              I haven't looked into that tbh. Is it just "cold" or brutal in many more ways?
              If it were me I certainly wouldn't want to have it in a specified medical setting. I had seen lots of possible ways in the early days of internet and would want to choose my own way and moment.

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                Peatful @CrumblingCookie
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                @CrumblingCookie

                Im no expert

                But
                I would say cruel

                It’s “suffocation” in many places where it is legal

                Supposed to go fast
                Supposed to…
                And yet many have needlessly suffered
                While family watched
                Some wanting to reverse their decision

                Barbaric

                One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                -DB

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                • InsomniacI
                  Insomniac
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                  How more people will end up killing themselves by accident:
                  Youtube Video

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                    CrumblingCookie @Peatful
                    last edited by CrumblingCookie

                    @Peatful said:

                    It’s “suffocation” in many places where it is legal

                    Supposed to go fast
                    Supposed to…
                    And yet many have needlessly suffered
                    While family watched
                    Some wanting to reverse their decision

                    I feared it to be something along the line of ineffective executions of death penalty.

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                      Peatful
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                      Bill passed
                      Shocker

                      Key points about the recent vote:

                      Result: The bill passed with 330 votes in favor and 275 against.

                      Significance: This is considered a historic moment as it is the furthest any assisted dying bill has progressed in the UK Parliament.

                      Next steps: The bill will now go through further scrutiny and potential amendments in the House of Commons and then the House of Lords.

                      One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                      -DB

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                      • LukeL
                        Luke
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                        Step 1: Terminally ill people should have the opportunity to end their suffering on a completely voluntary basis.
                        Step 2: See step 1, but terminally ill patients cost society a lot of money.
                        Step 3: Yes, we pay for your treatment, but there are easier ways to end your suffering.
                        Step 4: We don't pay for your treatment, but there is an alternative.
                        Step 5: Can you please finally kill yourself? You are a burden to society!
                        Step 6: We will kill you.

                        UK is now at step 1, Canada somewhere between 3 and 4. We'll see how far they go.

                        I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                          Lizb @Luke
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                          @Luke yep. The road to hell.

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