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      yeehawyinzer
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      Recently I've been focusing more on the electron transport chain and mitochondrial energy production.
      Supplemented various B vitamins including thiamine, riboflavin, niacinamide, inositol, and P5P.

      One other key factor in mitochondrial energy production is coenzyme Q10 and I was curious what other's experiences are and dosing that worked for them for various purposes.

      I have a congenital heart condition (bicuspid aortic valve) so CoQ10 may be of particular relevance to me.

      For the record I started off with one gram as it arrived in the mail today from Purebulk and my weight is 210lbs/95kg. Will follow up with results.

      One thing so far is potentially increased blood flow to extremities (hands, feet), and feeling generally relaxed and energized. It's a very slight general improvement and will see if this is repeatable and has duration to it.

      Also see related thread on this forum:
      https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/2335/k2-and-coq10-for-mitochondrial-health

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        Hearthfire @yeehawyinzer
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        @yeehawyinzer

        I am gonna try Ubiquinol/CoQ10 soon for hair regrowth
        Pretty crazy testimonial about it here:

        https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/years-of-looking-for-hair-growth-accidentally-found-coq10.108472/

        Also would be nice for it's heart/cardiovascular health benefits, especially since there's some theories that balding is related to poor heart health.

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          A Former User @Hearthfire
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          @Hearthfire @yeehawyinzer Its also beneficial for fertility and gum health

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            Hearthfire
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            I'm on 400 mg a day of Ubiquinol. Will update experience.

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              LucH @Hearthfire
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              @Hearthfire said in CoQ10 Experiences:

              I'm on 400 mg a day of Ubiquinol. Will update experience.

              Hi,
              It would be interesting to split the take: 200 mg ubiquinol in the morning and 100 mg at midday, with a meal where there is some fat. Liposoluble.

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                Hearthfire @LucH
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                @LucH I was actually thinking of splitting it 200mg at breakfast, 200mg at dinner instead of all in one go. Obviously with fat. Spread it out more over the day. I'll do that today.

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                  LucH
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                  OK but I won't expect much "evidence". What it does is under the radar.
                  Conjunction of several "ingredients" is required when trying to optimize energy.

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                    Hearthfire @LucH
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                    @LucH "What it does is under the radar."

                    Not so according to a lot of posts I've read. I'm definitely interested in the anecdotes of it regrowing lots of hair.

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                      LucH @Hearthfire
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                      @Hearthfire said in CoQ10 Experiences:

                      @LucH "What it does is under the radar."

                      Not so according to a lot of posts I've read. I'm definitely interested in the anecdotes of it regrowing lots of hair.

                      Maybe (witnesses) but how the hell do you think it's going to function? That's pure curiosity. No link, please, for a social medium, as I'm not fan of.

                      Q10 = energy for mitochondria = fuel for cells.
                      How are you going to let the blood arriving there (to bring nutrients).
                      By the way, grey / white hair = lack of base (Mg K Na Ca). Too much stress doesn't help too, as you know.
                      If I had the new formula to let hair regrow, I could make money 😊 (humor).

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                      • LucHL
                        LucH
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                        Additional info (in a docx, from my PC) 🙇
                        Our body produces 10 mg per day; if inflammation, psychological stress, intestinal leakage, it is quickly used up and the body cannot build up ATP reserves (energy).
                        It is dosed at blood level: if less than 1000, supplementation is required.

                        Which coenzyme Q10 to take and in what dosage?
                        --> If leaky gut, always take “active” coenzyme Q10 (ubiquinol)
                        --> If there are no intestinal problems, the non-active coenzyme Q10 is also assimilated.

                        Dosage: maximum 500 mg/day (more is useless: not absorbed)
                        Generally, as an initial dose, we take 200 mg in the morning and 100 mg at midday. Guaranteed pep boost.

                        A Japanese study shows an increased effectiveness of 4/1 with ubiquinol (active form, called reduced) compared to the ubiquinone form.
                        The body can convert ubiquinone into ubiquinol but less well as we age or in cases of pathology (leaky gut, marked stress, inflammation)
                        If it is not mentioned which form of coQ10 you have in the product, it is likely the ubiquinone form (oxidized form), which costs less to produce. Ubiquinol is more recent too.
                        The body is capable of converting ubiquinone into ubiquinol, but as we age this conversion is less successful. This does not mean that ubiquinone is ineffective; it's just that ubiquinol is more effective.
                        However, over the age of 40, if you take a form containing only 30 mg, it might be more appropriate to choose ubiquinol (non-oxidized form, called reduced). According to some sources the ubiquinol form is up to 6 times more effective, but this is not always the case. *

                        • Talk with my Physician.
                          NB: I've tried it so (200 + 100) for a energy boost (adrenal too much solicited). Not seen any effect. Logical. Have tied essential oil afterwards. 2 drops in the back with Picea mariana, at 4 o'clock P.M. before evening job. (Picea mariana = épinette noire)
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                          the_black_jew
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                          ubiquinol is le bad reduced form
                          ubiquinone is le good oxidized form

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                            jamezb46 @the_black_jew
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                            @the_black_jew

                            This is correct.

                            In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                              Hearthfire @the_black_jew
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                              @the_black_jew

                              Why? I thought it was well established ubiquinol was better.

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                                jamezb46 @Hearthfire
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                                @Hearthfire

                                Like many health claims that are "well-established", this is unfortunately not so true. It's also "well-established" that serotonin is beneficial for mood and health.

                                Ubiquinol contributes to reductive stress. As far as I know, RP never recommended it. He always talked about coq10, and he meant the oxidized version (ubiquonone)

                                In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                  Hearthfire
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                                  I'm still taking Ubiquinol, at 300mg per day right now.

                                  I can't say for sure yet if it has helped with any hair regrowth (why I'm taking it in the first place), because I do have regrowth that was happening before taking ubiquinol. I've been microneedling, using a regrowth shampoo, nizoral, and some other things. If it has helped it's not apparent yet, I'm guessing I need to be on it for at least a few months to notice a difference. The guy from that hairloss talk thread was on it for 4-5 months before he noticed it.

                                  Just got some CoQ10 at Costco, 300 mg per pill. Going to try that when I run out of Ubiquinol. Or maybe I'll start taking one of both forms per day at different times, just to cover bases. That would be 400 mg.

                                  As far as effects I HAVE noticed, I would say it has definitely helped with energy levels. Workouts feel a lot better lately. Not getting tired during the day.

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                                    Hearthfire @jamezb46
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                                    @jamezb46

                                    So would you recommend just ditching ubiquinol and use regular CoQ10? It is cheaper, which is nice.

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                                      DavidPS
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                                      It seems that CoQ10 levels change as we age. Yet another reason why your mileage may vary using a standard dose of CoQ10.

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                                      ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
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                                        DavidPS
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                                          jamezb46 @Hearthfire
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                                          @Hearthfire

                                          Ya, that what I’m doing

                                          In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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