Does anyone use the Thorne d and k (in one) drops?
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I’m wondering if the tocopherols (as preservatives) in it are problematic given the tocopherol-quinone clash, if i could call it that. Would appreciate any feedback.
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@16charactersitis Thorne required employees to get vaccines during the lockdowns. haidut's k2 mk4 supp is great and they also have D separately
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@the_black_jew
Thanks but idea labs doesn't have a d in oil it seems. I think they say steroids are best absorbed in oils, d(3) being a (seco)steroid.
Is it workable to dissolve a dose of calcirol in, say, mct oil when applying it on the skin, or would that de-potentiate it? -
@16charactersitis theres lots of vitamin D on the market. in canada a major supplement brand has vitamin D in coconut oil, like actual coconut oil solidfied in gelcaps. you can probably find something.
thorne’s in mct oil iirc.
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@the_black_jew thank s I have other forms, eg Carlson. Just that I had (when I started this thread) already accidentally bought the Thorne d and k combined and was wondering if it is of any use or too harmful and I should put it aside.
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@16charactersitis the best vitamin d is called micellised vitamin D
it makes it water soluble
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Yes, I have this product. Although I don't use it often because the K2 content is relatively low.
Never had any negative symptoms. What symptoms would I be looking for if the tocopherols plus K2 was a problem?
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@wester130 Thank s will take a look
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@Luke yes . Something about it s best not to take tocopherols (e) and quinones (k) together. I think Haidut once said if one is much less than the other, it would not be a serious concern. I wonder if the ratio of e to k in the Thorne d&k drops would make it not a big deal. The E is in there as a preservative.
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@16charactersitis said in Does anyone use the Thorne d and k (in one) drops?:
@Luke yes . Something about it s best not to take tocopherols (e) and quinones (k) together. I think Haidut once said if one is much less than the other, it would not be a serious concern. I wonder if the ratio of e to k in the Thorne d&k drops would make it not a big deal. The E is in there as a preservative.
I don't know how much vitamin E is in one drop. On the back of my bottle it is listed under “Other ingredients”, but it only says how much D und K2 is in each drop.
Is there a policy in the US that requires supplement manufacturers to list the amount of vitamins/minerals (in IU or mg) if they exceed a certain limit? If so, I would suppose there is only a minimal amount of Vitamin E in the product.
I would also add as a thought that foods that are relatively high in K2 also have a little bit of Vitamin E (like some cheeses), although not much. So some E in the presence of K2 shouldn't be a problem. I don't know of a food that is high in both K2 and E, so it makes sense that a lot of both isn't a good fit.
Doesn't haidut have a product (estroban) that is relatively high in all fat-soluble vitamins, including E und K2? Has he ever written about the potentially negative interactions of both together?
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@wester130 said in Does anyone use the Thorne d and k (in one) drops?:
@16charactersitis the best vitamin d is called micellised vitamin D
it makes it water soluble
Do you experience a difference with micellized D3 versus oil based? Such as better results with labs; or at the least do you fell any different, or does it assimilate better, i.e., no negative side effects or hindering of feeling normal?
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too early to tell
sometimes vitamin D can give tension in the body, I'm not sure I feel it with this
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@wester130 said in Does anyone use the Thorne d and k (in one) drops?:
too early to tell
sometimes vitamin D can give tension in the body, I'm not sure I feel it with this
Ok, thanks. I've purchased some micellized D3 in the hopes it is the magic bullet for my vitamin D woes.
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Just reporting back here that my first experience with micellized D3 did not go well. Was really hoping this would be the trick to getting D3. Unfortunately, I felt anxious and very off, then a typical malaise. I believe the anxiety was due to some hormonal change, to use a very unscientific description. The one thing different from most other supplements, especially fat-based D3, was that the heavy malaise did not last long at all, where it usually always does — days. When I get the courage, I'll try this again.
