Hypothyroid->Digestion Issues->Allergies->Adrenaline->Insomnia
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Hello,
I have been hypothyroid for about 22 years, the first 17 years I was so depressed that it just went by like a blur and I just assumed it was normal to have this little energy. Then the last 5 years I spend desperate trying to make a change, gradually overcame first social anxiety and then depression. But it wasn't until a few weeks ago I finally connected the dots and realized that I am legitimately hypothyroid.
I'm currently taking 120mg NDT/day and it has been very effective for the most part.
Unfortunately it seems the hypothyroidism also fucked up my digestion, if I eat the wrong thing I become cortisoid for roughly 6 hours, and thyroid doesn't fix it. This irritation also seems to cause allergies later, which then can cause an adrenaline cascade, which then causes insomnia.
Do I just need to wait for the thyroid to normalize the digestion? Is there any particular substance that helps get there faster? I've also been trying to find a method to end the adrenalinic metabolism so I can at least avoid the insomnia, but no such luck so far.
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@pittybitty
Hi,
I'd deal with a plan before taking anything else or the result won't last long.- Stop allergenic elements, like agglutinin in wheat from gluten (impact on zonulin of the border brush) and irritant (like alcohol or cascara). Replace carbs from pasta / bread by starch from potato, rice and sweet potato. But only if manage well MCC (interprandial bowel movements). So you have stools twice a day, well-shaped.
NB: Vary. 2 days one, once a day, and change afterwards. there is a lot of phytates in sweet potato. Need calcium or citrate (K or Mg) to take it away.
-You won’t tolerate food with fiber if your intestinal walls are irritated. Need to calm down. I’d use glycine and L-glutamine. No L-glutamine if suspicion of SIFO (e.g. fungus as candida albicans).
You can use collagen powder or best bone broth for glycine intake. No bone broth if you suffer from high grade histaminose (L3 histamine).
L-theanine supplement 2x/d could help to relax too. Glycine and theanine have gaba-like effects on brain. Not enough to hold stress apart. Breath control (CO2) and a relax technique are required (Sophrology or EFT to lower adrenaline and subsequent cortisol).
I’d take magnesium bisglycinate to recover on an easiest way. 300 mg 3x/d. Witt food. Our food doesn’t bring Mg enough. 450 mg is the RDA dose but we don’t reach it (…) Not enough when stressful. The dose 300 mg is to take after a stressful event, not before (no anticipation, useless).
I follow my intake on cronometer.com; most of the time I have to add 2/3 of a dose (2.5 g = 1 dose) before sleep + add some potassium K citrate or KHCO3 (potassium bicarbonate).
I have a special “receipt” with a shake for combining the acid-base balance and the recovery of intestinal walls.
NB: Potassium levels should be optimized to avoid most problems with the glycemic control. Need for green soup but moderate it if you’re hypo (avoid excess thiocyanates from the cruciferous family). - There is an interaction between the brain and the microbiome (intestinal flora) through the vagus nerve. Need to take it into account if you can’t eat what you’re advised, whenever your brain takes the control (cramps).
- You probably lack some B1 and B6. See Dr. Allil Overton. Impact of several pathologies. Cured with high dose (protocol)
Do not take only one or two B-vitamins; there are interaction between B1 2 3 8, mainly. I‘d add a complex B-50 2x/w (co-enzymed), so not every day for the B-50 complex.
Note: Remind you need a global plan. Taking one or two elements of the plan is not going to function. A 20’ walk after the evening dinner could help manage glycemia and stress.
Take control of your health, and see you later to report
LucH.
- Stop allergenic elements, like agglutinin in wheat from gluten (impact on zonulin of the border brush) and irritant (like alcohol or cascara). Replace carbs from pasta / bread by starch from potato, rice and sweet potato. But only if manage well MCC (interprandial bowel movements). So you have stools twice a day, well-shaped.
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I haven't really found the energy to write a proper reply lately so sorry for this will probably be a rambly incoherent mess.
First of, the suggestion to cycle carb sources to avoid overburdening the digestion with any particular antinutrient/irritant is great. So far I have been cycling potatoes, rice and oats and there were no sudden cortisol spikes like with wheat.
I thankfully already have most of the things you suggested and I was successful in lowering stress enough to sleep by taking Gelatine + Theanine + Magnesium acutely.
Physical relaxation I have a lot of trouble with, I was able to find some relaxation by going out into the nature, finding some space to lie down in the sun, far away from any passerbys. That's the only real method I found effective, but alas the circumstances for it are often not given. I can also do a bit of controlled breathing to increase CO2 but don't find it particularly relaxing. I think for the most part it's learned helplessness from not being in the physical state to be able to relax all the time.
Unfortunately overall it has gotten worse (not due to interventions, I think symptoms getting worse what led me to open this thread in the first place), at first I had to battle the insomnia a lot and while that improved bit by bit yesterday I ended up in a state of constant mental irritatableness where I hated everything. And despite falling asleep rather easily, I woke up with even deeper eye rings than usual. I have no idea what that means in terms of biochemistry, it was more than the usual Cortisol.
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@pittybitty said in Hypothyroid->Digestion Issues->Allergies->Adrenaline->Insomnia:
I can also do a bit of controlled breathing to increase CO2 but don't find it particularly relaxing.
CO2 is more to optimize metabolism here. Usually not perceived at the beginning. Simply dee p breeze when walking (downside of the stomach).
I'd read the link to see if you feel concerned, whenever 3 symptoms are present.
Signs of iodine deficiency
Main signs of iodine deficiency leading to metabolic disorders in adults:
Apart from usual symptoms as goiter enlargement, hypothyroidism, impairment of mental function, spontaneous hyperthyroidism in the elderly, Drs David Reliquet and David Minkoff mentions additional symptoms like reduced alertness & slow metabolism leading to fatigue, sluggishness, apathy, depression and insomnia; lack of optimal detoxification, particularly of bromides, fluorides and heavy metals; sensitivity to temperature changes, cold hands and feet; muscle pain, etc.
Source:
80. Optimum Health Report #334 – Dr. David Minkoff, Medical Director.
https://www.lifeworkswellnesscenter.com/health-blog/health-products/optimum-health-report-334.html
The Need for Iodine Supplementation - by Wojciech Rychlik, Ph.D. -
@pittybitty said in Hypothyroid->Digestion Issues->Allergies->Adrenaline->Insomnia:
And despite falling asleep rather easily, I woke up with even deeper eye rings than usual. I have no idea what that means in terms of biochemistry, it was more than the usual Cortisol.
This is often a sign that you are not consuming enough carbs. It is number 3 in the Peatbot response.
Peatbot.com: To reduce cortisol, consider the following strategies based on the context provided:
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Engage in Relaxing Activities: Activities such as playing a musical instrument, painting, or simply lying on a blanket outside and watching the clouds can help reduce stress and lower cortisol levels.
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Exercise: Physical activities like chopping wood or using dumbbells can be beneficial. These exercises use your muscles, which can help reduce stress and cortisol levels.
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Nutrition: Maintaining adequate nutrition is crucial. Ensure you have enough calories to reduce stress hormones. Consuming carbohydrates, such as those from orange juice, can help spare protein and maintain metabolism, promoting fat loss rather than muscle loss.
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Supplements: Consider supplements that support the production of protective steroids like pregnenolone, progesterone, and DHEA, which can protect against cortisol. Calcium, in particular, has a relaxing anti-stress effect.
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Manage Blood Sugar: Keeping blood sugar levels stable is a powerful way to reduce stress.
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Breathing Techniques: Breathing into a bag to increase CO2 levels can help manage stress and reduce cortisol by stabilizing blood pressure and calming the body.
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Sunshine and Nature: Spending time outdoors in nature and getting plenty of sunshine can also help lower chronic stress and cortisol levels.
By incorporating these strategies into your lifestyle, you can work towards reducing cortisol levels and managing stress more effectively.
Other things to consider:
Alternate Nostril Breathing (ANB)
ANB has been found to lower blood pressure and help people relax. The studies show that 10 minutes twice daily is effective to bring about the effects.How and why to practice alternate nostril breathing
Cortisol Awakening Response (CAR).
Cortisol has its own circadian cycle.
CAR is design to get people out of bed in the morning. If you go to bed earlier for a few days you may be able to get enough sleep (while your cortisol is low) so that you can get a full night of sleep.
What is the Cortisol Awakening Response?
Consider Inositol (formerly vitamin B8)
Inositol is a B vitamin that plays a role in various biological processes. I am told that it takes a few days of use to do its magic.
7 Surprising Benefits of Inositol (You Need to Know)There are youTube videos about its effects on sleep. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=inositol+for+sleep
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Huh, there might be something to that. Probably reduced carb intake too much in the attempt to avoid the irritation from the wheat.
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Ate extra Carbs and now I am happy again
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@pittybitty said in Hypothyroid->Digestion Issues->Allergies->Adrenaline->Insomnia:
Ate extra Carbs and now I am happy again
Ok, fine. Need for potassium should be optimized to avoid / limit insulin spike.
When taking carbs, B1 B2 B3 + biotin should be brought from food or supplement.
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@LucH Okay, you are saying that basically I need to make a diet + supplement plan that covers all basic nutrients without irritation so the gut can heal without further complications correct?
Sorry for being slow on the uptake, I am still dealing with the kind of low energy brainfog so I was only thinking about the immediate next steps.
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@pittybitty
Yes. Well sumerized.
I understand your need for concentration and Time to deal with the info.