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    Urgent overdose (b1, prog)

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    • cs3000C
      cs3000 @bioenergetical
      last edited by cs3000

      @bioenergetical thiamine megadose raises co2 in the cell, could explain why progest brought it back. i'd guess a few days for the active effect to settle . and i'd say the vitamin c could be worth a go if the breathing problems hit again. and testing small amounts of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) might help ease things while it wears off, if the CA inhibition is the problem then u'd have low bicarbonate

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        bioenergetical
        last edited by bioenergetical

        What if the B1 depleted my iron stores? Which is why I had an averse reaction to the progest E (vitamin E). Did I become iron deficient? My diet isn’t high in iron to begin with

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        • cs3000C
          cs3000 @bioenergetical
          last edited by cs3000

          @bioenergetical could have yeh worth a minerals test to see what metals went down , but progest shouldnt have had an extra effect acutely i dont think if that was the main problem, the acute effect is likely sending the co2 too high , progesterone boosts co2 further from metabolism increase and increases lung sensitivity to co2, people with hypercapnia hyperventilate & get shortness of breath

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          • cs3000C
            cs3000 @bioenergetical
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            @bioenergetical was it 1.2g thiamine or 12g?

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              bioenergetical @cs3000
              last edited by bioenergetical

              @cs3000 12g plus the amount in energin

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                bioenergetical
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                  bioenergetical
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                  Not sure if it is iron cause I’m no craving meat

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                    bioenergetical
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                    Don’t understand why progest E worsened symptoms for me

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                      gg12 @bioenergetical
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                      @bioenergetical Im glad your okay that sounds scary

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                        bioenergetical @cs3000
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                        @cs3000

                        I’ve been drinking oj. I took 4g sodium bicarbonate and I felt weird. Shortness of breath

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                          bioenergetical @gg12
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                          @gg12

                          No, I’m not really okay. I’m tense, on edge. I don’t know what’s gonna happen

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                            bioenergetical
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                            I feel warm and im not convulsing. But I feel like I can’t breathe that great. It just feels off

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                              bioenergetical
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                              I took a manganese capsule and I feel more relieved… I did see something about excess B1 causing manganese deficiency. Not sure if it depleted anything else

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                              • jamezb46J
                                jamezb46 @bioenergetical
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                                @bioenergetical Try magnesium and riboflavin.

                                In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                                  cs3000 @bioenergetical
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                                    bioenergetical
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                                    the manganese seemed to have stabilized me for the night, my blood pressure normalized (slightly lower than normal but that’s fine). But now I woke up with higher blood pressure. Feeling kinda desperate

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                                      lobotomize-me @bioenergetical
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                                      @bioenergetical how did you take that much especially transdermally

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                                          bioenergetical
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                                          I don’t know if doctors will be able to help regarding this situation. Bioenergetics is a more obscure practice. Wouldn’t they put me in a more critical state?

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                                            bioenergetical
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                                            Should I take more manganese?

                                            https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.89.2302.132

                                            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1702130/?page=1

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