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    • LucHL
      LucH @dapose
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      @dapose said in Collagen Powder wtf?:

      ground beef

      freshly ground minced beef , otherwise high is histamine.

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      • daposeD
        dapose @LucH
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        @LucH
        Well that’s interesting. The thing is, I can eat abunch of foods that are high histamine and have no problems. I really believe there is some manufacturing element to collagen powder that is extremely irritating. Haven’t fully investigated this so I’m not exactly sure.
        Once and awhile I eat a dinner that is a can of oysters drained and add Umboshi vinegar. Parmesan cheese, popcorn popped in ghee with salt. And Genoa meat slices with sweet pickles. All super high histamine foods. This meal is delicious and I thought for sure it was a problem but it never has been… I tested it last week.
        Ground beef is all good with me too. Idk.
        Something about collagen irritated the gut. Whenever I have spilled collagen coffee or got some powder on my fingers it is extremely sticky. It could be used for glue. My guess is that it sticks to the gut lining and just irritates the hell out of that thin tissue.

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        • samsonS
          samson
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          Yeah, most collagen powders have heavy metals unfortunately. was getting really bad NO symptoms until i swapped the powder food real soups.

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            Corngold @dapose
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            @dapose idk but I think most if not all supplements are useless... eat gelatinous meats and garlic, onions, ginger.

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              random @Corngold
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              @Corngold said in Collagen Powder wtf?:

              @dapose idk but I think most if not all supplements are useless... eat gelatinous meats and garlic, onions, ginger.

              Do you suggest garlic, onions and ginger for a specific reason?

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                Corngold @random
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                @random idk I just always breathe and feel better after these foods. I think citrus and some herbs also support the immune system. I've never had much histamine problem except seasonal allergies and wine. Wine is a big problem so I avoid it.

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                • LucHL
                  LucH @random
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                  @random said in Collagen Powder wtf?:

                  garlic, onions

                  These two one contain sulphur useful to make glutathion.
                  Need selenium too (meat and champignons).
                  Mercury must be taken seriously into account. Otherwise, we won't recover (enzyme way blocked). Mind LPS toxins when detoxifying, especially with garlic.

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                    random @LucH
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                    @LucH said in Collagen Powder wtf?:

                    @random said in Collagen Powder wtf?:

                    garlic, onions

                    These two one contain sulphur useful to make glutathion.
                    Need selenium too (meat and champignons).
                    Mercury must be taken seriously into account. Otherwise, we won't recover (enzyme way blocked). Mind LPS toxins when detoxifying, especially with garlic.

                    From what food/environnemental sources do you think people are prone to accumulating mercury? I don't know if you're referring to people in general or people who are influenced by "bioenergetic" ideas

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                    • LucHL
                      LucH @random
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                      @random

                      I speak In general.
                      From teeth if more than 50 years old. Some kinds of tuna.
                      NB: No more than one fish predator once a week.
                      Selenium must be higher than mercury.
                      I come back with a graph.

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                      • LucHL
                        LucH
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                        Ratio mercury / selenium in fish
                        NB: Graph on the link beneath.
                        Ratio Mercure / Sélénium dans la sardine, le maquereau et le thon
                        https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1264-poisson-frais-et-huile-composition#14421
                        We should have less Hg (mercury) than Se. Maximum ratio 1.
                        I’d avoid fish predator as Haddock, sea bream, halibut and specifically tuna. Never more than once a week when eating a predator.
                        Tuna ratio is 331/36. It depends on the species too. Therefore, it's highly toxic. Expressed in ppm per 100g of fish, this gives a ratio of 9.2. But in canned fish, this ratio is closer to 2/1 or 1/1 (extracted oil), I think.
                        Source: Calypso, 2016 (équipe Cousteau)
                        Search Google with: Mercure et étude calypso 2016.

                        1. Analyze (in French)
                          https://auculdubateau.wordpress.com/2016/06/02/le-poisson-est-il-pollue-voici-les-faits-espece-par-espece/
                        2. Table
                          Same, but drop down the menu on the link and bring back the table, which you will divide into 2, for easier reading.
                          Highlight:
                          Canned tuna contains much less fat than fresh tuna (used for other purposes, such as omega-3s). There's not really a problem because mercury is mainly found in the fat. (This tuna is therefore acceptable once a week, except for pregnant women and children, contrary to what you might usually read.) Obviously, we'll favor the least polluted sources...
                          Please keep an eye on Se and Mg (antagonists of mercury)!

                        Additional info
                        See too for comment (scroll downwards to see different sources):
                        Ratio Mercure / Sélénium dans la sardine, le maquereau et le thon
                        https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1264-poisson-frais-et-huile-composition#14421

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