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    herenow
    last edited by Apr 21, 2025, 2:14 PM

    the empire strikes back. lots of pro pufa content all the sudden

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      Gardner @LucH
      last edited by Apr 21, 2025, 2:33 PM

      @LucH said in seed oils are healthy:

      @Gardner said in seed oils are healthy:

      Why do you think so ?

      All unused PUFA will cause problems. max 5-7 g but only if you eat bone broth. Glycine is required. otherwise, it could be less. No need every day as well.
      PUFA are carcinogenic, dietary glycine blocks their effect
      http://carcin.oxfordjournals.org/content/20/11/2095.long ++
      => The findings apply to all oils containing enough PUFA to give you a dose of 5g - 7g per serving. 10g - 15g of glycine would be sufficient to block common uptake of PUFA’s. Combined with vitamin E (500 mg), even lower dose of glycine may be sufficient.

      Glycine as prevention for cancer treatment
      https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/glycine-as-prevention-and-treatment-for-cancer.7579/
      Glycine is one of the most potent inhibitors of VEGF (Vascular endothelial growth factor) and many of the current blockbuster drugs are VEGF inhibitors. However, I think the more fundamental reason for glycine's effects are its opposition to PUFA, serotonin, estrogen, endotoxin (called LPS in the study below) and their anti-metabolic effects.

      And what do we do to get glycine ? I guess nothing...just eating normal foods, especially meat (with some tendons in it)

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        LucH @Gardner
        last edited by Apr 21, 2025, 2:43 PM

        @Gardner said in seed oils are healthy:

        And what do we do to get glycine ? I guess nothing...just eating normal foods, especially meat (with some tendons in it)

        Yes but not optimal so. Need a little more. So combine.
        Note that taking glycine from powder and food won't probably give the same result in assimilation. Both are well (if no allergy from residue in powder).
        Haidut said once that taking 10 g from powder will give 20 % assimilation for glycine.
        Target for 2 g glycine is fine.

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          Gardner @LucH
          last edited by Gardner Apr 21, 2025, 7:14 PM Apr 21, 2025, 7:11 PM

          @LucH said in seed oils are healthy:

          @Gardner said in seed oils are healthy:

          And what do we do to get glycine ? I guess nothing...just eating normal foods, especially meat (with some tendons in it)

          Yes but not optimal so. Need a little more. So combine.
          Note that taking glycine from powder and food won't probably give the same result in assimilation. Both are well (if no allergy from residue in powder).
          Haidut said once that taking 10 g from powder will give 20 % assimilation for glycine.
          Target for 2 g glycine is fine.

          I think extra glycine is useful to mimic protein deficiency.
          If the digestion is compromised then extra glycine (powder ) is silly idea . It is better to aim at normal digestable foods

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