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    My wild IdeaLabs nail test results - opinions ?

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    • MauritioM
      Mauritio
      last edited by Mauritio

      An update on this situation:
      I had an abdominal MRI to rule out any adrenal or liver tumor issues, which came back totally fine.

      So I think at this point the most likely explanation is what @cs3000 and T3Uncoupled suggested which is that my consumption of apple polyphenols caused a reactive overproduction in the opposed hormones. Apple polyphenols seem to have a slight anti-DHT effect and I took 2-3 capsules for several months.

      Either this or the hormone test is complete trash, which I dont think.

      Unfortunetly I had an MRT with contrast not knowing how bad they are. So thats another issue.
      Fortunetly it was a macrocylcic contrast which seem to be lot easier to excrete and less likely to be deposited:

      "...gadolinium associated with macrocyclic GBCA use is cleared more rapidly from tissues than that with linear agents. The gadolinium present after macrocyclic administration is 306-fold lower in the brain, skin and bone of patients compared with linear GBCA..."
      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8837552/#Sec4

      "Results Gadolinium deposition in brain tissue significantly varied with GBCA type (F = 31.2; P < .0001), with median concentrations of 0 μg gadolinium per gram of tissue (95% confidence interval [CI]: 0, 0.2) in gadoteridol-injected rats, 1.6 μg gadolinium per gram of tissue (95% CI: 0.9, 4.7) in gadobutrol-injected rats, 4.7 μg gadolinium per gram of tissue (95% CI: 3.5, 6.1) in gadobenate dimeglumine-injected rats, and 6.9 μg gadolinium per gram of tissue (95% CI: 6.2, 7.0) in gadodiamide-injected rats; a significant positive dose-signal intensity correlation was identified (ρ = 0.93; P < .0001)."

      "... this washout appears to be more robust with macrocyclic agents, where the amount of retained gadolinium 52 weeks after supradiagnostic exposure was only 13% of the amount retained, as measured with ICP-MS at 5 weeks (103). In comparison, a more attenuated washout phenomenon was observed after gadodiamide administration, with 50% of the initially measured amount retained at 1 week still present 20 weeks after administration (96). Longer-term washout data are needed at common time points to permit comparability between agents and classes."
      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28640692/

      Dare to think.

      My X:
      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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      • cs3000C
        cs3000 @Mauritio
        last edited by cs3000

        @Mauritio good to hear its clear ,

        hmm swerved a bullet with that then, so with the macrocylcic type might be negligible amounts

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5647271/

        it was noted that the levels of gadolinium were several-fold lower for tissue from patients injected with macrocyclic agents compared to those injected with linear agents (20 times lower for ProHance than for Omniscan) and the actual amount of gadolinium deposited was very small, of the order of a few ng g−1 of tissue.

        hard to say if thats a relevant amount right, low ng/g seems very small ive seen other toxic metals found in double - triple digit nanograms per g of non cancered tissue

        but for added peace of mind with whats left a boost a round of lipoic acid might be worth a try for a couple weeks? and avoiding zinc supplements during this time as seems to help retention (but needs replenishing after ofc). and 1g vit C a day might help (helps lead excrete a lot at least)

        Sulfur groups bind it like the other heavy metals https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341867829_Investigating_the_role_of_sulfate_groups_for_the_binding_process_of_gadolinium_ions_in_glycosaminoglycans
        (so lipoic acid which has 2 sulfur groups, msm, thiamine might be useful , as such low amounts from the macrocylcic type probably best not to take high amounts for long as run the risk of needed metal depletion, maybe a couple weeks would be significant)

        "world," as a source of new perceptions
        more https://substack.com/@cs3001

        "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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        • MauritioM
          Mauritio @cs3000
          last edited by Mauritio

          @cs3000 said in My wild IdeaLabs nail test results - opinions ?:

          so maybe ok considering very low ng concentration but for a boost with whats left a round of lipoic acid might be worth a try for a couple weeks. and avoiding zinc supplements during this time as seems to help retention (but needs replenishing after ofc). and 1g vit C a day might help (helps lead excrete a lot at least)

          Sulfur groups bind it like the other heavy metals https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341867829_Investigating_the_role_of_sulfate_groups_for_the_binding_process_of_gadolinium_ions_in_glycosaminoglycans
          (so lipoic acid which has 2 sulfur groups, msm, thiamine might be useful , as such low amounts from the macrocylcic type probably best not to take high amounts for long as run the risk of needed metal depletion, maybe a couple weeks would be significant)

          Im not sure about lipoic acid. know that peat thought it might lead to heavy metal deposition in even more harmful places, althugh i dont understand why that wouldnt be the case with lets say, citric acid from orange juice or lactic acid from yoghurt...but given the relatively small amount of heavy metals ill probably skip it

          theres this video of a guy going around who said he lowered his heavy metals by 75% using MSM so that might be something Ill try.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r34x3jcRIo0
          So far I feel like antioxidants help me the most and molybdenum for some reason ...

          Dare to think.

          My X:
          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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          • MauritioM
            Mauritio
            last edited by

            Another idealabs nail test that's all over the place ...
            https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/idealabs-hair-analysis-of-hormones-and-elements.53777/

            Dare to think.

            My X:
            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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            • samsonS
              samson @Mauritio
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              @Mauritio ray said once that toetails would be a pretty reliable metric from steroid analysis if you wear closed toed shoes most of the time. did you do finger nails?

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              • MauritioM
                Mauritio @samson
                last edited by

                @samson they urge you to send in both ,because of the amount.

                Dare to think.

                My X:
                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                • samsonS
                  samson @Mauritio
                  last edited by

                  @Mauritio seems like an oversight on georgis part. ray pretty explicitly said that hair and fingernails wouldn't be very reliable, as they're constantly exposed to outside contamination

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                  • MauritioM
                    Mauritio @samson
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                    @samson could be . I don't know how much of those they use or of they're just back up in case toe nails arent enough

                    Dare to think.

                    My X:
                    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                      16charactersitis @Mauritio
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                        16charactersitis @Mauritio
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                        @Mauritio let us know (if you don’t mind) when you find one please.. would have to be a zoom/phone-friendly one or the like. Anyone know what ever happened to heroico on the old forum? S/He seemed like a possibility, but might be busy with grandkids by now.

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                        • MauritioM
                          Mauritio @16charactersitis
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                          @16charactersitis not sure what you're talking about ? Is this relevant to this thread ?

                          Dare to think.

                          My X:
                          x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                            16charactersitis @Mauritio
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                            @Mauritio was referring to you saying you were looking for a peaty practitioner

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