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Suggestions to help reverse severe sarcopenia in older type 2 diabetic

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    BroJonas @LucH
    last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 8:41 PM

    @LucH Thanks. It seems no matter the amount of carb he eats in a balanced meal with fiber his blood sugar always spikes. He follows that sort of approach to manage spikes and gets a lot of protein. But his biggest peak is after fasting all night. His liver is pumping out glucose via gluconeogenesis constantly it seems.

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      DavidPS @LucH
      last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 8:53 PM

      I agree with @LucH. Jessie Inaupsché (also known as the glucose goddess) has posted lots of images showing the impact of her different hacks for managing glucose spikes. I posted a number of images showing the results of her hacks on her glucose monitor, I posted lots of images at
      https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/observations-from-using-a-continuous-glucose-monitor-jessie-inchauspe.45964/

      ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
      ☂️

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        LucH @BroJonas
        last edited by LucH Apr 2, 2025, 9:14 PM Apr 2, 2025, 8:54 PM

        @BroJonas
        If the liver is engulfed in fat, hé won't manage well. With glcemia problem there is not much to do.
        Potassium from vegetable soup could help.
        At night he could get low insuline, just to sleep well. But it won't solve anything. Thé problem will get More serious.

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          BroJonas @BroJonas
          last edited by Apr 2, 2025, 10:14 PM

          @BroJonas Yeah he does high fiber high protein low carb meals and it still spikes well above 200. He’s done that all year and it’s gotten nowhere yet. It seems like his liver is constantly synthesizing and pumping out glucose at a base level to try to keep energy balance

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            cs3000 @BroJonas
            last edited by cs3000 Apr 3, 2025, 12:53 PM Apr 3, 2025, 12:25 PM

            @BroJonas
            a post on a high carb low fat intervention study u can show him, https://x.com/cs3000_/status/1907744027748729155 (i wouldnt go 0% though. but fat can worsen insulin resistance, including fat released during overnight fast with the higher cortisol. fatty acids are higher in blood in people with diabetes too not just glucose, high fatty acids impair cells ability to use glucose). low carb hasnt helped because its not fixing anything fundamentally

            first u could try:
            3g-4g of basil (sweet basil) powder or dried leaves in tea , twice a day before meals with carbs (helps blood sugar in human and animal studies. some it fixes fully. effect if its gonna work would work progressively and would show well by about 1 month)

            & giving 100mg hesperidin a day (i wouldnt go much higher tho) as it helped reverse sarcopenia in aging https://cs3001.substack.com/p/orange-juice-for-muscle-loss-sarcopenia

            and 3rd giving some extra thiamine daily might help as re-absorption is impaired in diabetes. cant use carbs well without it. animals avoid carbs when its low. i dont think high doses feel good though and supplements commonly 100mg. even 10mg-20mg is a boost. its 1 need sorted.

            then with these a couple days at a time in a measured approach replacing fat with carb intake to see if it creates adaptation and normalises

            "world," as a source of new perceptions
            more https://substack.com/@cs3001

            "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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              BroJonas @cs3000
              last edited by Apr 5, 2025, 10:13 PM

              @cs3000 Thanks a lot for this. I’ll look into it

              He’s got an aversion to basil. But maybe in a capsule he could get it in.

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                A Former User @BroJonas
                last edited by A Former User Apr 6, 2025, 12:16 AM Apr 6, 2025, 12:13 AM

                niacinamide with meals first
                add thiamin

                then consider biotin and aspirin

                keep fruits juice honey nearby in case they drop blood sugar too fast

                consider light walking after meals
                pufa avoidance obv

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                  BroJonas @A Former User
                  last edited by Apr 7, 2025, 9:50 PM

                  @eduardo-crispino Thanks. He was actually crushing bags of nuts when the condition was hitting the fan. Peeing all day, rapidly losing weight

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                    BroJonas
                    last edited by Apr 30, 2025, 11:53 PM

                    So my dads now taking insulin and from the first dose felt better, like more stable standing and cognitively.

                    He probably needed this a year ago but they only checked his A1C and nothing else for insulin sufficiency.

                    Hopefully this will help him put on some weight. He’s already feeling like his muscles are working again

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                      A Former User @BroJonas
                      last edited by A Former User May 1, 2025, 12:38 AM May 1, 2025, 12:37 AM

                      @BroJonas cool. probably should focus on getting pufa out of diet as long as he isn't going to entertain a high carb diet. coconut oil is probably the least bad cooking fat

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