2-Oxa Tren has been replaced with Non-methylated OXANDROLONE
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@alfredoolivas said in 2-Oxa Tren has been replaced with Non-methylated OXANDROLONE:
@dht the main thing I noticed from trenbolone was increased semen volume interestingly
But it increased seminal volume? A compound's metabolites apparently known to shutdown the hpta and natural testosterone production for up to 18 months increased seminal volume.
@alfredoolivas said in 2-Oxa Tren has been replaced with Non-methylated OXANDROLONE:
Too good to be true, other animal studies show no shut down from testosterone as well lol. People have tried running trenbolone solo and it never is good, people lose muscle.
Yet it didn't shut down your LH and FSH
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@dht yep, but there is no other way to put this; I am built different.
For example, I once made a “mistake” and injected 4200mg of testosterone propionate a week for a month (as I thought it was weaker). It made no difference; I didnt put on any more muscle and I didn’t get any side effects or mental benefits like more libido.
It’s a curse and a blessing, but the point is, I am an outlier in every sense.
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@alfredoolivas As funny as that is, your endocrine system and HPTA doesn't behave any differently from every other animal on the planet. I have seen anecdotes of people getting off NPP deca and trenbolone once the drug clears their body without waiting the "18 months" for their HPTA to bounce back from the supposed 19nor metabolites. I really think the dogma around having a test base being absolutely necessary is just not true. I have used DHT anavar winstrol masteron propionate and proviron without a testosterone base and my endogenous production never ceased. And it appears that un-aromatizable 19nors should behave the same.
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@dht How do you know your endogenous production never ceased? Do you have bloodwork?
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@jamezb46 When I am shutdown there is a very obvious low pregnenolone feeling, ontop of that my balls shrink very noticeably. Shutdown for me only happens on test esters, not DHTs. And even then shutdown only occurs from excessive aromatization (think of deca or NPP only cycles) and antagonizing bound estrogen reverses it instantly
