Fragrances, scents, pheromones
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Fragrances, scents & pheromones can have powerful effects on physiology. Some fragrance critics disreguard the cliche that good perfumes sexually seduce or awaken memories - but I think it's this, and even more which makes a good scent. I think it's possible to induce a person to total frenzy with the right scent.
"And insects and probably dogs, for example, can detect at a distance a single vibrating molecule. For example, a pheromone molecule can be at a distance and very spread out, but the infrared oscillations emitted by the molecule just sitting there are strong enough to be sensed by insects. So the environment is constantly offering us information about itself, and those levels of subtle energy interactions depend on our sensitivity to them." - Ray Peat
Ray has also talked about the effect of male pheromones to cause a spike in estrogen in pregnant women and consiquently inducing spontanious abortions. There have been fascinating reports of the effects, and smell of @haidut's Androsterone and I think there's a whole language of scent/ olfaction out there that is yet to be explored.
Anyway my favourite fragrance atm is Yves Saint Laurent's La Nuit de L'Homme Bleu Électrique.
It makes me feel like im in Polanski's Frantic (1998). What's your favourite fragrance/ scent? -
@skylark said in Fragrances, scents, pheromones:
Polanski's Frantic
Do you have the composition of this toilet water? Is it not estrogenic?
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@Fructose No. It contains a strong lavender note though, so sure don't put it on your skin if you're sensitive I guess. I think the estrogenicity of a molecule is probably not harmful when just detected through olfaction. You can always just spray on clothes. Some of the best smelling molecules are very toxic though, like musk xylene and other nitro-musks in the 1980s - I think it's okay to put your health for such a nice scent tho.
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@skylark I miss perfumes, so maybe I'll buy it. Thanks.
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all perfumes smell disgusting
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also when you start eating healthy you start to smell good, especially to women
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I like to use Yatagan. Not often, Im sure there is some toxic stuff in there but there is also eugenol
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@sunandblood I doubt you've smelled all perfumes, Ray has mentioned that high estrogen can cause over-sensitivity to smells, something about protecting the fetus from foreign substances, have you looked into this? But you're right about smelling naturally good. Really, men should not wear fragrance at all, not to mention having 'sillage'... it's sickening walking into a bar and being flooded by jeremyfragrance's top ten tiktok recomendations.
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@Neigher That looks nice, I'll have to try it. One of my favourite fragrances is Christopher Sheldrake's Serge Lutens Fille en Aiguilles and i've been looking for something similar. I love pine and forest scents.
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JPG Ultramale fo today. Trash sickly sweet cloying. Sweaty yoga pants femael teases me incessantly at uni, she wants my sex. too much going on in the top/mid notes, cluttered, drydown musk is quite cozy though
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I'm gonna put some andro on my pulse points tn I'll lyk
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My favorite fragrance was my grandma's house. I don't think it would be a good perfume for a young lady, but most girls smell pretty nice anyway, like clean hair. I notice when girls wear perfume on "night's out" it often smells like musty flowers and reminds me of the color mauve.
I also like the fragrance of Diptyque Do Son. The website says "this woody aromatic fragrance has a blend of fig leaf, coconut, green accords, cedar, woody accords, and fig tree." sounds about right, it's like a floral green.
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@Pillman *To this question, as kids, my friends always gave the same answer: "Pussy." Whereas I answered "The smell of old people's houses." The question was "What do you really like the most in life?" I was destined for sensibility. I was destined to become a writer. I was destined to become Jep Gambardella. *
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@Pillman My grandma lived in a small flat in the East End and I have the fondest of memories of that place. It had an energy in the air made sweet through constant cooking, baking, spices. The scent of ‘home’ which is very calming & I’m certain it lowers sympathetic-nervous tone. Don’t know if it’s pavlovian anticipatory response or something more. Maison Margiela’s Replica By The Fireplace has this.
My other grandparents lived in the countryside & had a dense forest of old trees on their land. Memories of my childhood are laced with the damp smell of earth, moss and decomposing wood - it’s this I find most intoxicating of all. England’s capricious seasons create wonderful scents.
I can’t believe what you said about the colour mauve… I’m scared
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@Pillman Do Son is beautiful, its mostly tuberose. Theres an 18th century legend that in the perfume region Grasse, young girls were forbidden to go out at night , when the tuberose flower blooms and emits scent, because the rich aroma would cause them to become lustful and indecent.
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I did bag breathing the other day for the first time, I was sitting on my couch that used to belong to my grandparents and when I removed the bag from my face after 5 minutes I was completely inundated with the scent of their old house from when I was a child. Difficult to specify the notes but as you’d guess deeply comforting. Makes sense that the couch had retained that smell but I’d obviously just become accustomed living with it. Very nice byproduct of the bag breathing, especially with the co2 ‘calm’ intersecting with the sensory experience.
I wear CDG Man 2 when I go out to drink. It’s nice.
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There's definitely something to wearing a good fragrance. But talking about pheromones, an alternative path would be stinkmaxxing. Not using soap, maintaining a good metabolism and a good hormonal profile, exercizing, etc. should all contribute to create a strong, smellable aura of manliness around you. You can also cheat your way into this:
Who here /stinkmaxxing/ ?
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"Traditionally, truffles have been used as an effective sexual enhancer due to their constituent of androstenol as a steroidal pheromone [101, 102]. While truffle hunting, animals might recognize the odor of this chemical marker. Androstenol was also found in the underarm perspiration of men and urine of women and increased sexual attractiveness higher [11, 102]. The alcoholic extract of T. boudieri increased the levels of luteinizing hormone and testosterone significantly in rats and consequently possessed the aphrodisiac activity owing to its androgen enhancing properties [103]. However, Al-Damegh demonstrated that the androgenic property of truffles was more related to psychological effect because the flavonoids in truffles were present in the form of glycosides, which act as antagonists for male sex hormones [102]."
Potentials of truffles in nutritional and medicinal applications: a review [https://doi.org/10.1186%2Fs40694-020-00097-x]Are you ready to trufflemaxx ?
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Excellent Twitter thread by @chudlord on androsterone, confirming the apparent pheromones-like effect of this byproduct of testosterone: https://twitter.com/PunishedChudy/status/1787473517916619126
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@HyperTorless yeah androsterone definitely has some pheromone effects. I remember reading this Reddit post by supposedly some guy who wrote his PhD thesis or some kind of research iirc on pheromones. And he stated that all steroids with the andro- prefix are pheromones and that they have actually varying effectiveness, if I remember correctly androstenedione was the most potent one.